Dallas, Where are you?

by **NickSMU17** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:11 am

Sometimes I think Dallas is making so many positive steps towards becoming a world class city, but then they do things like let the rangers go to arlington, the cowboys,ect....

How come Dallas isn't up in arms about getting SMU into the big 12 or top tier conference with the understading of how much revenue this would bring to Dallas?

Especially because the city would have to outlay no $$$, SMU will pay for all stadiums, parking, security, ect...All Dallas gets to do is cash checks on thousands of new visitors coming in every other weekend....

It is amazing the town is so apathetic....even if you hate SMU you know its good for the city....

by **ericdickerson4life** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:13 am

Because they plan on everyone staying in Dallas for TCU games once they move to the B12.

by **NickSMU17** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:14 am

Maybe so, but I would expect Ft. Worth to get an economic bump from this and once again dallas is left with 1 competitive event in the city... sorry the stars only draw when they are good...

by **03Mustang** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:15 am

ericdickerson4life wrote:Because they plan on everyone staying in Dallas for TCU games once they move to the B12.

Nice shot at Laura "Can't Do" Miller

by **RednBlue11** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:17 am

the city's motto: "laissez-faire like you just don't care"

by **ojaipony** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:25 pm

It seems to me that Dallas is more of a 'pro town' ... when you have the Cowboys (and now with the Mavs), that's a lot of light shining, and I think we get caught in the shadows a bit. HOWEVER, as has been repeated so many times that it's now a cliche', just WIN and you'll see ... also there might be a perception of elitism with SMU (I personally don't have a problem with that because we ARE better than most) but I think more marketing to the 'unwashed masses' will help ... but we're going to have to go undefeated (or close to it) in C-USA with a few quality wins like the one over TCU, for a couple of years to get the perception momentum going after being so bad for so long ... just imagine if we had beat aTm and ran the table this year (beating UCF, Tulsa - who is better than some think, just look at their BRUTAL schedule and THEN UH?!? ... wow, that would bring them out next year especially if we say we even have BETTER recruits coming in and a hardcore marketing campaign!!).

by **Charleston Pony** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:30 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:Sometimes I think Dallas is making so many positive steps towards becoming a world class city, but then they do things like let the rangers go to arlington, the cowboys,ect....

How come Dallas isn't up in arms about getting SMU into the big 12 or top tier conference with the understading of how much revenue this would bring to Dallas?

Especially because the city would have to outlay no $$$, SMU will pay for all stadiums, parking, security, ect...All Dallas gets to do is cash checks on thousands of new visitors coming in every other weekend....

It is amazing the town is so apathetic....even if you hate SMU you know its good for the city....

Surely by now you realize that "Dallas" doesn't identify with SMU. It's really a shame and a major marketing opportunity for SMU. JJ's presence is helping, but we have a long ways to go in capturing the interest of casual Dallas sports fans. We seem to have trouble capturing the interest of our own alumni, the majority of which over the past 20 years probably never had much interest in sports

by **NickSMU17** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:49 pm

You guys don't read well. I understand dallas is not a smu town.
However it is a local government that could use the extra millions in revenue from having big 12, sec fans marching into proper Dallas for 6 Saturday's every fall.

Dallas isn't a pro town either because outside of mavs you have no pro teams.

My point is that Dallas should realize that losing all these sports to other areas will eventually bite them in the butt and having a presence in proper Dallas can pay a lot of bills.

by **gostangs** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:09 pm

plus they can kiss the stars goodbye soon. One way or the other.

by **SoCal_Pony** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:12 pm

from what I have read, Dallas officials believe the Texas / OU game brings in $20M per year to the city.

using those calculations, having 4 SEC games per year here including at least 1 at the Cotton Bowl during State Fair (LSU would be a prime candidate) should be worth $40M minimum per year to Dallas.

I agree, regardless of your feelings about SMU, why walk away from that type of $$$

by **ojaipony** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:01 pm

You are talking about the GOVERNMENT of Dallas, I'm assuming. What could they give us in terms of promotion? I don't get your complaint. Who cares about the government? We should care about the sports FANS of Dallas ... and saying the Mavs are the only pro team in Dallas? Come on, yes, the Cowboys are technically in Arlington but they are not called the Arlington Cowboys nor will they ever be. We are talking about getting METROPLEX support. Maybe I'm missing something, but I personally could care less about the government of the city of Dallas - still don't see your point in what they can do for us.

by **NickSMU17** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:32 pm

Stay in ojai...

by **ponyscott** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:53 pm

Nick...most if not all of the politicians of Dallas could give a crap about sports, much less SMU but at least Mayor Mike Rawlings came out in support and realizes the $$ to our city:

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The following first appeared in the September 2, 2011, edition of The Dallas Morning News.

"Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings: SMU deserves a shot at BCS status

I have a great passion for football. It has been a major part of my life: Playing in youth leagues and attending college on a football scholarship. Thousands of other North Texans also love football and cheer on teams, from our outstanding high school athletes to the Dallas Cowboys. And who can resist the excitement of the Texas-Oklahoma game during the State Fair, unmistakably the best college game year in and year out?

Our region also can be proud of its major college programs. But since the breakup of the Southwest Conference and the advent of the Bowl Championship Series in the 1990s, we as a city and region have lost an important asset: The chance to play for and win a national college football championship.

Potential realignments in the BCS now present a new opportunity for Dallas and our home team, Southern Methodist University. Texas A&M has announced that it wants to leave the Big 12 . SMU, currently a member of Conference USA, has said that it wants to participate in a conference that has automatic qualifying status.

SMU would seem to be a natural for the Big 12. The conference is home to three other Texas schools â€” Baylor, the University of Texas and Texas Tech â€” as well as Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State , Missouri and Iowa State. Another possibility for SMU is that Conference USA, along with other conferences, may be ready to join the ranks of the BCS.

Whatever road it takes to the BCS, SMUâ€™s goal is important for Dallas and the region â€” even for those who donâ€™t consider themselves football fans. Hereâ€™s why.

Our community would benefit.

We all win if SMU plays in an automatic qualifier conference against powerhouses such as the Longhorns, Red Raiders and Sooners. Alumni of these universities and students would travel to Dallas from around the country to see their womenâ€™s and menâ€™s teams compete at SMU. They would fill up Dallasâ€™ hotels, restaurants, museums and shopping centers. And theyâ€™d return home to tell their friends and co-workers about our city.

Thousands of these graduates who live in our community finally could cheer on their universities as their teams play close to home. SMUâ€™s 100,000 energized alumni also would make quite an impact. More than 40,000 of them live in North Texas. And high-profile TV games in Dallasâ€™ large market would further boost our national visibility.

A recent study at the University of Missouri found that athletic events there have an impact of about $118 million on the community each year. Dallas could put such resources to good use.

The BCS, and especially the Big 12 Conference, has strong ties to North Texas.

The Big 12 headquarters are in Las Colinas. The conference represents thousands of jobs and at least $1 billion in economic value to Texas. The conference also represents our regionâ€™s strong athletic identity and great rivalries that have been built, dating back to the Southwest Conference.

A strong Big 12 is beneficial to us all; we do not want it to splinter. Expanding the conference to include SMU would be one way to stabilize the BCS and continue a rich tradition.

SMU is ready to compete.

SMU has made a strong case that itâ€™s ready for the BCS. Off the field, the universityâ€™s academic profile is on the rise. On the field, the Mustangs won the 2009 Hawaii Bowl and their conference division last season under Coach June Jones. They also played in the 2010 Armed Forces Bowl to thousands of visitors in SMUâ€™s Ford Stadium, and the university plans to expand its stadium to make room for its growing fan base. BCS membership also gives visibility and opportunities not just for football, but for all womenâ€™s and menâ€™s sports at SMU.

We must build a movement for SMU: Sports talk show hosts and columnists must advocate for it; legislators need to speak up; and business executives should rally and invest behind this idea. For people like me who love football, this is a no-brainer. For others, the idea that we will become a smarter, richer and more fun city should be your motivation."

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by **ojaipony** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:59 pm

Nick, thanks. I will. I'll be on the beach while you are shoveling snow in Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar/ etc ..

No need to get nasty.

Matt

by **NickSMU17** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:05 pm

Ojai on 2 post you have turned down significant money...

Both the opportunity to move to big east and add 10-15 mil a year to our athletic department and also the millions of dollars that would come into Dallas by us being a part of sec or big 12.

The only thing we have in common is that neither of our states understand $$$ so at some point I will be shoveling snow but we will both be in states owned by the Chinese....ojai won't be so sunny with a hammer and sickle over it....