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My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:49 pm
by ponyboy
I think Margus has the athletic ability to rank him in the top 2% of any man who's ever played the game. Name other players with more. He has an unbelievably strong work ethic. He's got size. Boy, does he have size. And speed. I expect Hall of Fame. And I'm on record.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:10 pm
by Alaric
Whew...those are strong goals

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:18 pm
by ponyboy
Yes.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:20 pm
by smusic 00
There are 33 D Linemen in the Hall. Best of luck.

Modern Era: Defensive Linemen (33)
Doug Atkins (DE) 1953-1969 Elvin Bethea (DE) 1968-1983 Junious (Buck) Buchanan (DT) 1963-1975 Curley Culp 1968-1981 Willie Davis (DE) 1958-1969 Fred Dean (DE) 1975-1985 Richard Dent 1983-1997 Chris Doleman (DE, LB) 1985-1999 Art Donovan (DT) 1950-1961 Carl Eller (DE) 1964-1979 Len Ford (DE) 1948-1958 Joe Greene (DT) 1969-1981 Dan Hampton (DT-DE) 1979-1990 David (Deacon) Jones (DE) 1961-1974 Henry Jordan (DT) 1957-1969 Cortez Kennedy (DT) 1990-2000 Bob Lilly (DT) 1961-1974 Howie Long (DE) 1981-1993 Gino Marchetti (DE) 1952-1964, 1966 Leo Nomellini (DT) 1950-1963 Merlin Olsen (DT) 1962-1976 Alan Page (DT) 1967-1981 John Randle 1990-2003 Andy Robustelli (DE) 1951-1964 Warren Sapp 1995-2007 Lee Roy Selmon (DE) 1976-1984 Bruce Smith 1985-2003 Ernie Stautner (DT) 1950-1963 Arnie Weinmeister (DT) 1948-1953 Randy White (DT) 1975-1988 Reggie White (DT-DE) 1985-1998, 2000 Bill Willis (MG) 1946-1953 Jack Youngblood (DE) 1971-1984
- See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/posit ... Ehd5D.dpuf

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:29 am
by ClickClack
ponyboy wrote:I think Margus has the athletic ability to rank him in the top 2% of any man who's ever played the game. Name other players with more. He has an unbelievably strong work ethic. He's got size. Boy, does he have size. And speed. I expect Hall of Fame. And I'm on record.


Top 2% of dumbest posts ever on ponyfans. congrats.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:10 am
by PonyPlayer4
If anyone watched hard knocks, you saw how lost Margus still actually is. Yes he has size and strength, but he has no idea how to use it. He was on his back a lot in the hour show... After watching his college career, there is no logical explanation or argument you can make for Margus being a HoF caliber player.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:06 am
by ponyboy
ClickClack wrote:
ponyboy wrote:I think Margus has the athletic ability to rank him in the top 2% of any man who's ever played the game. Name other players with more. He has an unbelievably strong work ethic. He's got size. Boy, does he have size. And speed. I expect Hall of Fame. And I'm on record.


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We'll see.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:06 am
by SMUer
Knowing how strong Margus is, watching HardKnocks really made me appreciate how incredible the caliber of NFL players vs. NCAA. Margus was being pushed around lole a ragdoll at times and much smaller guys were hitting as hard or harder than he was.

The potential is palpable but it's clear he doesn't have proper angles, hand-placement and sometimes intensity down yet.

I'm surprised. I thought he'd only need DT nuance-work: arm techniques or stuff like that. Which begs the questions: how does this staff take a tremendous athlete, who by all appearances is a smart, intelligent on how to use his body, and a quick-learner, and throughout four years of film, practice, one-on-one, not give him the basics!?! June's forgotten more about football than I'll ever know but he still seems completely raw fundamentally, which I think reflects poorly on this staff.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:08 am
by PerunaPunch
Margus is indeed an amazing physical specimen. But those guys aren't uncommon in the NFL. Last year, I was in Houston/Kemah/Clearlake doing demos of our products at a charity offshore powerboat event. Former Texans Pro Bowl DE Mario Williams came by for a ride. He's every bit as imposing as Margus (very similar measurables, but with a heavier build IMHO), plus I'm pretty sure he already knows how to play the game.

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Margus vs. Mario at the NFL Combine
Margus
6'8 | 277 lbs. | 4.60s 40 | 38 reps bench | 34.5" vert | 121" broad | 7.07s 3-cone | 4.51s shuttle
Mario
6'7 | 295 lbs. | 4.70s 40 | 35 reps bench | 40.5" vert | 120" broad | 7.21s 3-cone | 4.37s shuttle

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:10 am
by PerunaPunch
SMUer wrote:I thought he'd only need DT nuance-work: arm techniques or stuff like that. Which begs the questions: how does this staff take a tremendous athlete, who by all appearances is a smart, intelligent on how to use his body, and a quick-learner, and throughout four years of film, practice, one-on-one, not give him the basics!?! June's forgotten more about football than I'll ever know but he still seems completely raw fundamentally, which I think reflects poorly on this staff.

Remember, that basically until his Sr. year he was training to be a thrower first and a football player 2nd.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:51 am
by Fresno Mustang
Potential is there but thats a pretty big stretch considering other than the bowl games he'd disappear for games on end.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:16 pm
by SMU2007
ClickClack wrote:
ponyboy wrote:I think Margus has the athletic ability to rank him in the top 2% of any man who's ever played the game. Name other players with more. He has an unbelievably strong work ethic. He's got size. Boy, does he have size. And speed. I expect Hall of Fame. And I'm on record.


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lol. I love margus as much as anyone else on here, but he wasn't in the top 2% of college football players last year and the majority of games, not in the top 2% of players in CUSA. But he's supposed to be in the top 2% of people who have ever played the game?? I know you are a sunshiner, but man, sometimes you gotta at least have an ounce of realism in your brain.

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:27 pm
by SMU2007
and just to be clear, your expectations for June are to beat 5 teams out of the likes of Rice, ECU, UTEP, Tulane, Memphis, etc, right?

(I'm kidding ponyboy. You're a good fan and I enjoy arguing with you on here.)

Re: My goal for Margus

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:53 pm
by ponyboy
Haha. No, it's cool. I enjoy it too. Do understand, if it's not blatantly clear, that I had a little help from Bacchus on that post :-)

Margus is an athletic freak. He's athletically in the top 2% of any man ever to play the game. Very, very few players have had that combination of size, speed, and strength. Combine that with the discipline it takes to be a top track athlete, a probable Olympic gold winner had he stayed a thrower, and you get a rare individual. He's raw and brand spanking new to the game. I think he'll at the very least have a very long NFL career.

Better?