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by GiddyUp » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:17 pm
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic ... ys-fcs-fbsTwo AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
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by longtimecatfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:23 pm
GiddyUp wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-08-31/count-ways-fcs-fbs
Two AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
DeNarius McGhee is on record saying the reason he chose MSU over FBS offers is because "I want to compete for championships. I want to win a National Championship." Unless you are a BCS school, it's nearly impossible for any other FBS school to compete for a National Championship. The gap is closing if not closed already between top tier FCS and lower tier FBS as a result of this truth. Cue the "you're drunk, go home Bobcat" comments. The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12 because their lines are freakishly phenomenal.
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by redpony » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:41 pm
LTCF- understand your comments and glad you came here to enjoy the 'pony world'.
Lots of differences in the level of play between the two levels of fball. I don't know how many players from FCS schools make it to the NFL. I doubt as many as from FBS but have no numbers to back that up. Now, if a person wants a great education as well as good fball exposure then (IMO) most top level FBS schools are a better choice. Would you really compare a degree from your school as significant as one from SMU, Duke, ND or Stanford. I honestly doubt it. I'm in no way trying to insult your school. I just look at what the rankings are in U.S News and World Reports etc.
Hope you all have a good game this weekend and enjoy the Dallas area.
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by MustangStealth » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:36 pm
longtimecatfan wrote:The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12
Hey guys, I think we have a "Medicinal Herbs" major here.
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:39 pm
longtimecatfan wrote:GiddyUp wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-08-31/count-ways-fcs-fbs
Two AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
DeNarius McGhee is on record saying the reason he chose MSU over FBS offers is because "I want to compete for championships. I want to win a National Championship." Unless you are a BCS school, it's nearly impossible for any other FBS school to compete for a National Championship. The gap is closing if not closed already between top tier FCS and lower tier FBS as a result of this truth. Cue the "you're drunk, go home Bobcat" comments. The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12 because their lines are freakishly phenomenal.
Or maybe it is because didn't have any FBS offers-neither Scout or Rivals or ESPN list a single offer
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by longtimecatfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:30 pm
Stallion wrote:longtimecatfan wrote:GiddyUp wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-08-31/count-ways-fcs-fbs
Two AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
DeNarius McGhee is on record saying the reason he chose MSU over FBS offers is because "I want to compete for championships. I want to win a National Championship." Unless you are a BCS school, it's nearly impossible for any other FBS school to compete for a National Championship. The gap is closing if not closed already between top tier FCS and lower tier FBS as a result of this truth. Cue the "you're drunk, go home Bobcat" comments. The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12 because their lines are freakishly phenomenal.
Or maybe it is because didn't have any FBS offers-neither Scout or Rivals or ESPN list a single offer
I know he had an offer from Air Force, but I can't remember where the others were from
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:33 pm
Air Force "offers" about 300 kids. They take about 50 and send another 40 to their prep school. NCAA scholarship limits don't apply to the Academies and actually don't have athletic scholarships
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by longtimecatfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:35 pm
Stallion wrote:Air Force "offers" about 400 kids. They take about 50 and send another 40 to their prep school. NCAA scholarship limits don't apply to the Academies and actually don't have athletic scholarships
LOL. Well, you'll see soon enough whether you think he's any good. 
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:38 pm
I've seen him play in high school at Trinity in 5A Championship-never said he wasn't any good just questioned the reason he went to FCS school
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by GiddyUp » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:41 pm
The top 10 FCS players/recruits had some ok offers, I think they play with a chip on their shoulder and shock these teams
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by SMU21TCU10 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:24 pm
redpony wrote:LTCF- understand your comments and glad you came here to enjoy the 'pony world'.
Lots of differences in the level of play between the two levels of fball. I don't know how many players from FCS schools make it to the NFL. I doubt as many as from FBS but have no numbers to back that up. Now, if a person wants a great education as well as good fball exposure then (IMO) most top level FBS schools are a better choice. Would you really compare a degree from your school as significant as one from SMU, Duke, ND or Stanford. I honestly doubt it. I'm in no way trying to insult your school. I just look at what the rankings are in U.S News and World Reports etc.
Hope you all have a good game this weekend and enjoy the Dallas area.
I would imagine the guys with FBS offers that instead chose to go to the top tier FCS schools mainly have offers from FBS schools from the MAC, WAC, CUSA, Sun Belt or the bottom BCS teams that will never have a chance such as Indiana, Kansas, the Wazzu team we beat a few years ago etc. In that case I would probably rather commit to an App State, NDSU or Northern Iowa (arent they a good one) than a Buffalo, Louisiana Monroe, or Florida Atlantic.
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by SMU21TCU10 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:26 pm
longtimecatfan wrote:GiddyUp wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-08-31/count-ways-fcs-fbs
Two AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
DeNarius McGhee is on record saying the reason he chose MSU over FBS offers is because "I want to compete for championships. I want to win a National Championship." Unless you are a BCS school, it's nearly impossible for any other FBS school to compete for a National Championship. The gap is closing if not closed already between top tier FCS and lower tier FBS as a result of this truth. Cue the "you're drunk, go home Bobcat" comments. The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12 because their lines are freakishly phenomenal.
I am going to take a wild guess that Bo Levi Mitchell (our former QB who transferred) had a much better time winning championships at EWU than he would have had he stayed at SMU and won a Hawaii Bowl
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by longtimecatfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:51 pm
SMU21TCU10 wrote:longtimecatfan wrote:GiddyUp wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2013-08-31/count-ways-fcs-fbs
Two AAC teams USF and UConn lost as you know. Can someone that is a recruiting guru tell me how these teams stack up to most FBS recruiting classes? I did notice a few of the top 10 FCS guys got decent offers.
DeNarius McGhee is on record saying the reason he chose MSU over FBS offers is because "I want to compete for championships. I want to win a National Championship." Unless you are a BCS school, it's nearly impossible for any other FBS school to compete for a National Championship. The gap is closing if not closed already between top tier FCS and lower tier FBS as a result of this truth. Cue the "you're drunk, go home Bobcat" comments. The fact is North Dakota State could beat anybody but Stanford and maybe Oregon in the PAC 12 because their lines are freakishly phenomenal.
I am going to take a wild guess that Bo Levi Mitchell (our former QB who transferred) had a much better time winning championships at EWU than he would have had he stayed at SMU and won a Hawaii Bowl
Yes, BLM won a championship in 2010. MSU and EWU were co-champs of the Big Sky that year and MSU beat EWU 30-7 giving EWU their only FCS loss. Padron, the guy who beat BLM for the starting job at SMU who also later transferred to EWU, wasn't near as good as BLM. Whoever made Padron the starter over BLM was an idiot.
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by longtimecatfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 pm
Stallion wrote:I've seen him play in high school at Trinity in 5A Championship-never said he wasn't any good just questioned the reason he went to FCS school
Well, there's a you tube video of him saying it if you want to look it up.
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by Charleston Pony » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:23 pm
a lot of FCS programs bolster their roster with FBS transfers (our own Kyle Padron and Bo Levi Mitchell helped EWU improve their program and they just took out the #25 ranked FBS team). I don't know Montana State's roster or approach, but App State and Jerry Moore consistently landed guys who were highly recruited our of H.S., went off to SEC or ACC schools only to find themselves on the scout team.
FCS has the advantage of recruiting transfers who don't have/don't want a RS year and want to be eligible right away.
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