Who has the best staff basketball or football?

by **Rebel10** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:13 pm

by **smusic 00** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:28 pm

Gandalf

by **Mustangsabu** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:50 pm

Eh we have a hall of fame coach with an NBA ring and an NCAA championship. Comparison between different sports aside its hardly a fair fight. Our BBall staff is top tier. Our Football staff is headed by a guy with the respect of pro football people but with a short lived and relatively poor pro record as a head coach, no
Superbowl wins and who has led one college team to a BCS berth.

But the essence of the issue is which staff is able to deliver instant results. In this any basketball program is a sure fire winner. Just a couple of players and you can change fortunes quite dramatically. Freshmen can have a huge impact so you don't have to develop a team over time like you do in football. In the case of SMU BBall some people with money have set out to bring us to glory and have LB and 19 staff ready to do it. Scary combination.

by **Mustangsabu** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:51 pm

I guess my point is that comparison between the two is pointless.

by **Stallion** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:39 am

You're pointless. Nice predictions by the way. Larry Brown's success using a recruiting Model some have suggested for years now is really getting under the Jones' apologists' skins I see. Tell me again why June Jones had a recruiting staff averaging 55 years old with no Texas oriented recruiters until he finally hired one-Jason Phillips. Can you show me another Coaching Staff that looks like June Jones' staff has looked over a 6 year period that successfully recruits Texas

by **Mustangsabu** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:11 am

I love Larry Brown's success, and it certainly doesn't get under my skin. What does get under my skin is arrogant nonces wasting their lives bemoaning the manner in which JJ does his job. I would be very interested to see how a younger more aggressive head coach with a staff of "ace recruiters" with strong Texas ties would get on, and I would support that coach and his staff with exactly the same fortitude as I support June. However the job belongs to June Jones and in my opinion he deserves support and can do the job the way he wants to. He was offered it, he took it, and we are better than we were before he came here. Things have not gone the way he would have liked them to, and the idea that he is simply drawing a paycheck and going through the motions is insulting, ignorant and ungrateful. He is an unusual coach, but I like his approach to the game and I can appreciate his demeanor and his loyalty. I quite see that he likes to hire people from his past, and that this tendency runs contrary to the idea of getting a staff together that is "the best" and I think that we have perhaps suffered from it at times. I also think that he let himself down hugely with the ASU debacle. But I've seen unhearalded kids have success,three bowl wins in four years, a conference championship appearance and I think that he deserves to see out his contract without the level of base vitriol with which he is showered by a posse of malcontents behind their computers.

JJ has brought us to where we are today and he won't be our coach forever. And I think that in the event that he wants to stay here longer he is going to need to show that he has a plan that will continue our ascent. I think Phillips and Mumme are positive signs, though I question the impact of other hires. As I have said a thousand times, I will judge JJ when I see what the 2013 team achieved. The tech game was disappointing, but showed a lot of improvement on last season in my opinion.

by **Mustangsabu** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:13 am

Oh yeah, my prediction was wrong. I thought we'd win by 14. I didn't think that their offense would be so well run by the QB in the first game. Hats off to the kid.

by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:03 am

Only 3 basketball coaches can recruit at on time at any school I don't care how many people you have on staff. The question really is who has the better model? June has a bunch of his older buddies that can coach but may not be aggressive recruiters that are good coaches. LB has a staff of young aggressive diverse coaches that can coach, recruit, and relate to kids. June had a chance to do the same when he got here but did not. Bottom line is getting a top 14 class and then getting the number 3 recruit in the country with only 3 people allow to be on the road recruiting is nothing short of stupendous. You obvious are one of the ones watering down LB accomplishments in the short time he has been here. You name one other staff in college basketball history that has come to a school that has never had a top 15 recruiting class and bring in one the first year at the school? And them get the number 3 player in the nation the very next year?

by **Nacho** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:41 am

new football coach should be 72
must have won nfl and ncaaa championships
must assemble a staff that is all in on recruiting.

by **PlanoStang** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:42 am

smusic 00 wrote:Gandalf

Is he available :?:

I think he could win the NFL, and NCAA championship in any
sport :!:

by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:45 am

Nacho wrote:new football coach should be 72
must have won nfl and ncaaa championships
must assemble a staff that is all in on recruiting.

See James Franklin. LB's staff can coach as well. I expect Maligi and KT to be HC's someday. Jank is already in line to be one.

by **Nacho** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:55 am

james franklin is not 72. he was born in 1972.
no way in the world would he leave vandy for smu unless his salary is absurdly low.

by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:57 am

Nacho wrote:james franklin is not 72. he was born in 1972.
no way in the world would he leave vandy for smu unless his salary is absurdly low.

I am not suggesting getting James Franklin. I am suggesting getting someone like James Franklin. Look the hard core JJ supporter have to get ready for a change after next year whether they want it or not.

by **PlanoStang** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:58 am

Nacho wrote:new football coach should be 72
must have won nfl and ncaaa championships
must assemble a staff that is all in on recruiting.

The "ALL IN" phrase should be a big hint in how we've done with hotshot upwardly mobile
coaches. :roll:

by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:01 am

PlanoStang wrote:
Nacho wrote:new football coach should be 72
must have won nfl and ncaaa championships
must assemble a staff that is all in on recruiting.

The "ALL IN" phrase should be a big hint in how we've done with hotshot upwardly mobile
coaches.

Who do you think we should get because after next year? Because SMU will have to search.