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by Pony in SA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:59 am
Driving with son home last night from his football practice and Larry Coker show is on. He is asked if he took pride in fact his program only 3 years old, really only played about 27 or 28 college games in programs history, and yet essentially played Houston even 3 plus quarters and but for turnovers in 4th played a good ball game. His response was proud of kids playing hard, but their goal is to win all ballgames they play no matter who and no matter where. He said no excuses they are there to win ballgames and compete every play, no matter if they are playing Oklahoma State, Arizona on the road, etc.
He says they are still building and working their 5 and 10 year plans, but then says foundation of his program he tried to lay down was for his players AND coaches to always "do their very best and give 100% effort." Said he relied on John Wooden's influences and teachings and has stressed from day one his team will always play to their best, always be prepared, and never be out worked. Said if they get beat by superior talent sometimes that happens but no excuse to not give their best and to give effort school and fans could be proud of.
Again, I am not advocating hiring Coker at all and in fact think if we are going to make a change we need younger coach and staff to relate to recruits better. However, this is exactly type of attitude I want to see with our group. Win or lose I want us to have a plan to get better, be prepared and look like we are prepared on the field, give maximum effort and play with enthusiasm, and basically give a performance the players, school, and us fans can be proud of. Right now I'm not seeing that, but more important when the TV announcers are mentioning it, mentioning we don't have emotion on our sidelines, look unprepared for things, it is ridiculous.
My family will pile into car again for the trek to Dallas tomorrow night and be there again Saturday early for the Rutgers game, just like since 1989 when I first got my season tickets. My hope is our players and our coaches demonstrate their best and give maximum effort win or lose.
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by Rebel10 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:45 am
Pony in SA wrote:Driving with son home last night from his football practice and Larry Coker show is on. He is asked if he took pride in fact his program only 3 years old, really only played about 27 or 28 college games in programs history, and yet essentially played Houston even 3 plus quarters and but for turnovers in 4th played a good ball game. His response was proud of kids playing hard, but their goal is to win all ballgames they play no matter who and no matter where. He said no excuses they are there to win ballgames and compete every play, no matter if they are playing Oklahoma State, Arizona on the road, etc.
He says they are still building and working their 5 and 10 year plans, but then says foundation of his program he tried to lay down was for his players AND coaches to always "do their very best and give 100% effort." Said he relied on John Wooden's influences and teachings and has stressed from day one his team will always play to their best, always be prepared, and never be out worked. Said if they get beat by superior talent sometimes that happens but no excuse to not give their best and to give effort school and fans could be proud of.
Again, I am not advocating hiring Coker at all and in fact think if we are going to make a change we need younger coach and staff to relate to recruits better. However, this is exactly type of attitude I want to see with our group. Win or lose I want us to have a plan to get better, be prepared and look like we are prepared on the field, give maximum effort and play with enthusiasm, and basically give a performance the players, school, and us fans can be proud of. Right now I'm not seeing that, but more important when the TV announcers are mentioning it, mentioning we don't have emotion on our sidelines, look unprepared for things, it is ridiculous.
My family will pile into car again for the trek to Dallas tomorrow night and be there again Saturday early for the Rutgers game, just like since 1989 when I first got my season tickets. My hope is our players and our coaches demonstrate their best and give maximum effort win or lose.
Radio shows can definitely reach a lot of people. Good idea by Coach Coker.
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by Pony in SA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:24 am
He does them weekly at night, and also does regular weekly call in show in the morning with the ticket 760. This is is in addition to the luncheons, speaking to rotary and Kiwanis groups, etc. Not unusual for coaches to do this type stuff, not sure if June does much of it since I'm not up in Dallas.
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by Barksdale Pony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:35 am
Pony in SA wrote:He does them weekly at night, and also does regular weekly call in show in the morning with the ticket 760. This is is in addition to the luncheons, speaking to rotary and Kiwanis groups, etc. Not unusual for coaches to do this type stuff, not sure if June does much of it since I'm not up in Dallas.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.....June reaching out......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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by dirtysouthpony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:40 am
Pony in SA wrote:Driving with son home last night from his football practice and Larry Coker show is on. He is asked if he took pride in fact his program only 3 years old, really only played about 27 or 28 college games in programs history, and yet essentially played Houston even 3 plus quarters and but for turnovers in 4th played a good ball game. His response was proud of kids playing hard, but their goal is to win all ballgames they play no matter who and no matter where. He said no excuses they are there to win ballgames and compete every play, no matter if they are playing Oklahoma State, Arizona on the road, etc.
He says they are still building and working their 5 and 10 year plans, but then says foundation of his program he tried to lay down was for his players AND coaches to always "do their very best and give 100% effort." Said he relied on John Wooden's influences and teachings and has stressed from day one his team will always play to their best, always be prepared, and never be out worked. Said if they get beat by superior talent sometimes that happens but no excuse to not give their best and to give effort school and fans could be proud of.
Again, I am not advocating hiring Coker at all and in fact think if we are going to make a change we need younger coach and staff to relate to recruits better. However, this is exactly type of attitude I want to see with our group. Win or lose I want us to have a plan to get better, be prepared and look like we are prepared on the field, give maximum effort and play with enthusiasm, and basically give a performance the players, school, and us fans can be proud of. Right now I'm not seeing that, but more important when the TV announcers are mentioning it, mentioning we don't have emotion on our sidelines, look unprepared for things, it is ridiculous.
My family will pile into car again for the trek to Dallas tomorrow night and be there again Saturday early for the Rutgers game, just like since 1989 when I first got my season tickets. My hope is our players and our coaches demonstrate their best and give maximum effort win or lose.
Why not Coker? Sounds like he knows the procedure for building a program, he has recruiting connections in TX and Miami, and he sounds hungry. UCF did the same thing with O'leary. Look how that turned out for them.
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by Pony in SA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:44 am
Again not pushing for Coker at all, not my point of posting this. My belief is if we are going to make a change we need younger, aggressive type. Just pointing out what I see first hand other programs are doing and think we could learn some lessons as definitely areas we need to improve on. I'm sick of hearing TV announcers from ESPN to Fox Sports saying our group looks unprepared and uninterested to play with no emotion.
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by CenTXpony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:13 am
Barksdale Pony wrote:Pony in SA wrote:He does them weekly at night, and also does regular weekly call in show in the morning with the ticket 760. This is is in addition to the luncheons, speaking to rotary and Kiwanis groups, etc. Not unusual for coaches to do this type stuff, not sure if June does much of it since I'm not up in Dallas.
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by blackoutpony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:26 am
I've said it ever since after his first year there, I would love Larry Coker to be our coach. The man gets it. He's won a national championship. For those of you who want another LB type, and while he's not on that level, this is probably as close as you could get.
The man actually has a plan and I'm pretty sure if you asked him to pencil in losses, he'd tell you to go [deleted] yourself because that's not the type of team he coaches
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by dirtysouthpony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:04 pm
blackoutpony wrote:I've said it ever since after his first year there, I would love Larry Coker to be our coach. The man gets it. He's won a national championship. For those of you who want another LB type, and while he's not on that level, this is probably as close as you could get.
The man actually has a plan and I'm pretty sure if you asked him to pencil in losses, he'd tell you to go [deleted] yourself because that's not the type of team he coaches
HIRE LARRY COKER!!!!
This would be the LB of football. Coach doesn't have to be young,to generate excitement and energy in a program. He has also worked at a private in a large metro area. He has recruiting ties to Miami and TX. What more could you ask for?
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by blackoutpony » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:11 pm
dirtysouthpony wrote:blackoutpony wrote:I've said it ever since after his first year there, I would love Larry Coker to be our coach. The man gets it. He's won a national championship. For those of you who want another LB type, and while he's not on that level, this is probably as close as you could get.
The man actually has a plan and I'm pretty sure if you asked him to pencil in losses, he'd tell you to go [deleted] yourself because that's not the type of team he coaches
HIRE LARRY COKER!!!!
This would be the LB of football. Coach doesn't have to be young,to generate excitement and energy in a program. He has also worked at a private in a large metro area. He has recruiting ties to Miami and TX. What more could you ask for?
My point exactly 
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by sbsmith » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:28 pm
dirtysouthpony wrote: This would be the LB of football. Coach doesn't have to be young,to generate excitement and energy in a program. He has also worked at a private in a large metro area. He has recruiting ties to Miami and TX. What more could you ask for?
Wouldn't generate nearly the amount of buzz that Brown did, hell it wouldn't even touch June's buzz mostly because Coker is still known as the guy that killed "The U". Plus at 65 does he have enough in the tank for the type of work we need? This isn't UTSA (a poor upstart program with no immediate expectations for success) where he can get by on recruiting table scraps and beating up on nobodies (the stuff we're already sick of June doing).
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by SMUPhil » Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:38 pm
Yes, he won a national championship, but he inherited one of the most stacked rosters in college football history. 17 FIRST round draft picks (that year) on that roster. I wish we had a few more years of UTSA track record to follow his achievements, but since they're brand new it's hard to tell. I would NOT say he's a hire on the same level of Larry Brown.
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by stc9 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:54 pm
Pony in SA wrote:Again not pushing for Coker at all, not my point of posting this. My belief is if we are going to make a change we need younger, aggressive type. Just pointing out what I see first hand other programs are doing and think we could learn some lessons as definitely areas we need to improve on. I'm sick of hearing TV announcers from ESPN to Fox Sports saying our group looks unprepared and uninterested to play with no emotion.
I would add one thing. I think we should try to get a coach who is an innovator. Who is the next Art Briles offensive genius? Who is the next Gary Patterson who can create a dominating D? GPs 4-2-5 really does well against spread offenses. One of the rumored benefits to the Run and Shoot is that it narrows the talent gap. It worked for years, until Georgia firmly proved that superior talent beats it. The fact that SMU players couldn't learn it in 5 years makes me scratch my head. My point is, even with the best recruiter in the world, there is going to be a talent gap for several seasons to come. Having an offensive or defensive innovator will mitigate this gap. Or perhaps just put a competitive product out there given our current talent.
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