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Tie breakers

Posted:
Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:42 pm
by Mustangsabu
I'm sure this is written somewhere and it is entirely academic, but in a world where our only conference loss (I'm not saying I expect that) was in overtime and we had not played the team also at 7-1 (Louisville) should we not win a tie breaker on the bias is that we were unbeaten in regulation?
It's fun to speculate...
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:45 pm
by East Coast Mustang
No, tiebreaker is head-to-head and then BCS ranking, I believe.
Basically, we would need to win out and have both Rutgers and Louisville lose again to make a BCS bowl. Highly unlikely.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:46 pm
by East Coast Mustang
Also, does anyone else remember about ten years ago in the SEC when it was going to come down to a coin flip to determine who won the SEC East and they quickly rewrote the by-laws to make BCS ranking the final tiebreaker? That would have been wild.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:32 pm
by Mustangsabu
Personally I think that they should impose a game to break the tie. I know they would never do that but I'd like a shot, in that situation, of even going to Louisville and trying to win it outright.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:05 pm
by SMU2007
Mustangsabu wrote:I'm sure this is written somewhere and it is entirely academic, but in a world where our only conference loss (I'm not saying I expect that) was in overtime and we had not played the team also at 7-1 (Louisville) should we not win a tie breaker on the bias is that we were unbeaten in regulation?
It's fun to speculate...
Overtime loss vs regular season loss means absolutely nothing in football as far as I'm aware.
Tie breakers

Posted:
Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:07 pm
by SMU2007
As a side note, I've always thought if you bet on an underdog team to cover, say a 2 point spread, but they lose in OT by 3, it doesn't make sense that you lose the bet. The lines should be based on score after 4 quarters. But no one asked me...
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:24 pm
by LHS81
SMU2007 wrote:As a side note, I've always thought if you bet on an underdog team to cover, say a 2 point spread, but they lose in OT by 3, it doesn't make sense that you lose the bet. The lines should be based on score after 4 quarters. But no one asked me...
Sounds like you are a fan of OT games that you have money on

Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:45 am
by LA_Mustang
Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:01 am
by LA_Mustang
btw, we are 0-3 and outscored 131-53 against our only BCS opponents, non of which will make a BCS game (TT will lose to Baylor and OU) but we have delusional fans thinking we might make it to a BCS game. That sums up the SMU way of thinking and it is exactly why we are where we are....the outside looking in
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:41 am
by Grant Carter
LA_Mustang wrote:Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.
On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.
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Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:06 am
by SMU2007
Grant Carter wrote:On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.
I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but there actually IS a difference between the head coach and random fans posting on an internet forum.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:33 am
by Mustangsabu
LA_Mustang wrote:Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.
Until things are impossible to achieve I like to enjoy the idea of them. I don't find that unusual for a fan. Writing your team off before they hit the field is far more questionable.
I don't think it's likely, but neither do I think there is a team on the schedule that we cannot beat. The ranked UCF team we manhandled a couple of years ago, and while obviously playing very well, is not unbeatable.
Re: Tie breakers

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Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:58 am
by Grant Carter
SMU2007 wrote:Grant Carter wrote:On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.
I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but there actually IS a difference between the head coach and random fans posting on an internet forum.
Random fans are ripped for both of those things. I was not talking about the coach even though I used the pencil in wording, I should have used different wording.
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Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:53 am
by ojaipony
LA_Mustang wrote:UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either.
Not as talented as UH? Please. UCF? Yes, but not UH. They are not very good and have an extremely inflated W-L this year due to playing a bunch of nobodys. However, they are confident and some who haven't been paying attention think they are good bc they have a good W-L (again, because they played nobodys). This why I've been advocating a similar schedule for us (in the short term).
I'll guess we'll find out if I'm right or wrong with the Rutgers game. I hope Rutgers smokes them, and I expect they will.
Re: Tie breakers

Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:49 pm
by Nacho
we need them to beat ru.