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Is the problem June Jones? Or is the problem SMU?

It's been the same story with the last 5 post DP coaches....

Poor recruiting = poor play

JJ expects them to come to him without any effort. In year 1and 2 they did. Now they don't. I'd say it is on JJ. It will be on SMU if they keep him.

BRStang wrote:Poor recruiting = poor play

JJ expects them to come to him without any effort. In year 1and 2 they did. Now they don't. I'd say it is on JJ. It will be on SMU if they keep him.

I hear what you're saying, but I think your timeline is off.

This is JJ's 6th year. Season 1, June kept most of PB's recruits. So recruiting year 1 and 2 of the JJ regime would be season 2 and 3.

So technically, June's first two recruiting classes should (hypothetically, I know) now be redshirted juniors and seniors. The facts that we're seeing so many youngsters play points to some combination of 1) improved recruiting (younger kids passing older player on depth chart), 2) burning of redshirts, 3) not keeping kids in school, 4) roster/recruiting mismanagement.

PerunaPunch wrote:

BRStang wrote:Poor recruiting = poor play

JJ expects them to come to him without any effort. In year 1and 2 they did. Now they don't. I'd say it is on JJ. It will be on SMU if they keep him.

I hear what you're saying, but I think your timeline is off.

This is JJ's 6th year. Season 1, June kept most of PB's recruits. So recruiting year 1 and 2 of the JJ regime would be season 2 and 3.

So technically, June's first two recruiting classes should (hypothetically, I know) now be redshirted juniors and seniors. The facts that we're seeing so many youngsters play points to some combination of 1) improved recruiting (younger kids passing older player on depth chart), 2) burning of redshirts, 3) not keeping kids in school, 4) roster/recruiting mismanagement.

#4

Think about pope and Johnson red shirt burns. No kicker/punter. No running back. Converted QBs to wide receiver and NT to running backs. Do other well managed teams do these things. Some of it is understandable, but taken in totality it is mismanagement.

I believe #1, but #4 would be my primary contention as well. Too many non-contributors on the roster and too many receivers, which makes us thin in other areas.

Our best years were with the Bennett recruits. Our team will really show the results of poor recruiting next year. The hard core JJ supports can try but it is and will become more evident. GG's performance just covered up the poor recruiting.

PerunaPunch wrote:

BRStang wrote:Poor recruiting = poor play

JJ expects them to come to him without any effort. In year 1and 2 they did. Now they don't. I'd say it is on JJ. It will be on SMU if they keep him.

I hear what you're saying, but I think your timeline is off.

This is JJ's 6th year. Season 1, June kept most of PB's recruits. So recruiting year 1 and 2 of the JJ regime would be season 2 and 3.

So technically, June's first two recruiting classes should (hypothetically, I know) now be redshirted juniors and seniors. The facts that we're seeing so many youngsters play points to some combination of 1) improved recruiting (younger kids passing older player on depth chart), 2) burning of redshirts, 3) not keeping kids in school, 4) roster/recruiting mismanagement.

Hmm...was Bennett the reason we got Cole Beasley, Darius Johnson, Ja'Gared Davis, Sterling Moore, Torlan Pittman, Marquis Frazier, Shawnbrey McNeal, Richard Crawford, etc...hmmm...

by the end of his tenure, Bennett has built an almost competitive roster...but who will forget that futile 1st and goal from the one against Rice with a possible bowl bid on the line?

JJ had a great opportunity coming in here as the great savoir, but his plan (if he ever really had one) appears to have failed. This might be the 1st year since we started "bowling" again that we don't beat a team with a winning record

Charleston Pony wrote:by the end of his tenure, Bennett has built an almost competitive roster...but who will forget that futile 1st and goal from the one against Rice with a possible bowl bid on the line?

JJ had a great opportunity coming in here as the great savoir, but his plan (if he ever really had one) appears to have failed. This might be the 1st year since we started "bowling" again that we don't beat a team with a winning record

you know looking back on it, he didn't have a plan other than his offensive scheme. He had an excuse not to recruit to Hawaii and had some success with his offense. He must have thought his offense and his name would be all that he needed to have success here. Once he figured out it wouldn't he tried to bolt which only made things worse on both sides.

The decision to keep him after the ASU really set SMU football back many years.

Set us back many years and now we can't seem to get him to leave.