UCF

[AusTxPony]

First of all, I am thrilled with their win over Baylor. Good for them and good for this conference. My question is how did they do it? I don't recall a "great" recruiting class ranking. I don't think they broke 50th except maybe once in the last 4 years and they should end up in the Top 10-12. Bortles only had several offers, mostly G5 schools. So how did they become such a good team, coaching? Good linemen? Good evaluation? What? Analyze this for me.

[feelthehorsepower]

ESPN said it multiple times during the game: Baylor got smashed by a well coached and drilled UCF team. That is all.

For some reason, the usual suspects in this forum like to point fingers at the "bad recruiting" by June Jones, failing to recognize that our kids are young and we don't need the same kind of kids that OU needs. Their offenses need 5 stars to succeed, otherwise they dip. For a program that was dead several years ago, and I mean DEAD as in we had no football from 1987-2009.

UCF only racked 4 penalties for 40 yards in the entire game...how bout that! Baylor did 17 for 135.

[Rebel10]

UCF recruited much like TCU in that they have players that they beat out BCS bottom feeders for recruits. They were more mid level recruits than diamonds in the rough. Baylor did not have a bunch of 5 star players on the field either so it just came down to developing decent mid and low level BCS players and having a good game plan which UCF did. If they can do it so can we. Beat the Bears.

[LA_Mustang]

Not sure what their class ranking was but they had an excellent 2011 class. Their last three classes as ranked by Rivals:

2011
4-stars - 3
3-stars - 19
2-stars - 7

2012
3-stars - 13
2-stars - 4

2013
3-stars - 11
2-stars - 7

[LA_Mustang]

Their 2011 class was ranked #39 nationally, and the 2nd highest non-BCS class behind Utah

[Rebel10]

They have definitely had some decent classes. Their 2011 class really showed that that were as advertised. Their 2011 class was better than Baylor's 2011 class and it showed.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/baylor/football ... 11/all/all

[LA_Mustang]

The sad thing is that class we were building during Klemm's last year was similar in ranking to UCF's 2011 class. I believe we had a couple of 4-star recruits either committed or on the fence before everything blew up. If we'd kept the band together and added another solid recruiter along the way, that could've easily been SMU winning the Fiesta Bowl last night....but that takes a commitment.

[feelthehorsepower]

The sad thing is that class we were building during Klemm's last year was similar in ranking to UCF's 2011 class. I believe we had a couple of 4-star recruits either committed or on the fence before everything blew up. If we'd kept the band together and added another solid recruiter along the way, that could've easily been SMU winning the Fiesta Bowl last night....but that takes a commitment.

In fact if things were already golden by now (how we thought JJ's tenure would pan out) we might have been in the Big 12 conference, and probably not in the Fiesta bowl...but still in the Big 12. Cashing checks!

[JasonB]

I think UCF recruited a very solid supporting cast, a mix of 3 and 2 stars.

Bortles was 3 star on Rivals, 2 stars on Scout, 76 on ESPN. Only BCS offer was Purdue. Solid recruit, not spectacular.

Storm Johnson originally went to Miami, was a 4 star and had offers from several top programs.

The lesson here is that you want a good number of three stars, you hope some of your two stars end up being solid, you hope some of your three stars end up being difference makers, and having some great transfers is essential.

[feelthehorsepower]

I think UCF recruited a very solid supporting cast, a mix of 3 and 2 stars.

Bortles was 3 star on Rivals, 2 stars on Scout, 76 on ESPN. Only BCS offer was Purdue. Solid recruit, not spectacular.

Storm Johnson originally went to Miami, was a 4 star and had offers from several top programs.

The lesson here is that you want a good number of three stars, you hope some of your two stars end up being solid, you hope some of your three stars end up being difference makers, and having some great transfers is essential.

Bortles has the same rating as Neal Burcham. Have faith in our 2014 squad young padawans!


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[Lebanese4Life]

For some reason, the usual suspects in this forum like to point fingers at the "bad recruiting" by June Jones

do you think before you speak? sometimes i feel like you just post for the sake of posting.

[feelthehorsepower]

For some reason, the usual suspects in this forum like to point fingers at the "bad recruiting" by June Jones

do you think before you speak? sometimes i feel like you just post for the sake of posting.

I could care less what you think buddy. I get hate from the forum nazis that just love to feel special and that they are in control of their little squad of fans. I would trade all of you for 70k SEC style crazy fans that don't care about analyzing every bit of detail that our coaches are doing and just go to the games and cheer on the mustangs. None of you know squat and none of you are coaches so shut your piehole and let June and his squad coach!

[SMU 86]

I think UCF recruited a very solid supporting cast, a mix of 3 and 2 stars.

Bortles was 3 star on Rivals, 2 stars on Scout, 76 on ESPN. Only BCS offer was Purdue. Solid recruit, not spectacular.

Storm Johnson originally went to Miami, was a 4 star and had offers from several top programs.

The lesson here is that you want a good number of three stars, you hope some of your two stars end up being solid, you hope some of your three stars end up being difference makers, and having some great transfers is essential.

Bortles has the same rating as Neal Burcham. Have faith in our 2014 squad young padawans!


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It was more that just a QB that won that game for UCF. I don't think June has had 19 three star players. Also as JasonB pointed out the top player had at least 1 BCS offer.

[sbsmith]

It was more that just a QB that won that game for UCF. I don't think June has had 19 three star players. Also as JasonB pointed out the top player had at least 1 BCS offer.

UCF won that game in the trenches, when we play teams like Baylor we get dominated in the trenches (byproduct of June's touch football philosophy).

[ghost]

There is not that big of a difference between teams. Just a few new recruits, injuries or older senior teams with the proper coaching and the turnaround can be quick. TCU beat an RG3 team bad in Fort Worth and the next year BU barely hung on to beat TCU which was a springboard to a Heisman win, bowl game, new stadium, momentum and UT looking to steal BU's coach who is from the Texas high school ranks. Look at Auburn.