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Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:48 am
by Rebel10
He is on twitter arguing how a 2 team game is better than a 4 team playoff and more inclusive.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:51 am
by smusic 00
He is correct.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:51 am
by smusic 00
BCS system awards more teams than playoff. Playoff is exclusive of more teams.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:52 am
by smusic 00
Doesn't mean it's worse at determining number one.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:55 am
by Rebel10
smusic 00 wrote:BCS system awards more teams than playoff. Playoff is exclusive of more teams.


Totally incorrect. The year TCU went undefeated and was 3rd in the nation they would have gone to the 4 team playoff instead of the Rose Bowl. A playoff is more inclusive.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:56 am
by Digetydog
Rebel10 wrote:He is on twitter arguing how a 2 team game is better than a 4 team playoff and more inclusive.


The fear is that a 4 team playoff will kill the bowl system completely and cripple conferences like the AAC.

In a four team playoff, the four teams (99% of the time) will come from the SEC/B12/B10/P12/ACC/ND. While an undefeated AAC team might have a shot at getting in the playoffs, a 1 team AAC will almost never make the cut.

While a few bowls may survive in a playoff environment, they are going to demand big draws (B10/SEC/B12/ND/ACC/P12) for ratings/attendance reasons. A 1 loss Tulane/SMU/Houston will be left in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:05 am
by SMU 86
Digetydog wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:He is on twitter arguing how a 2 team game is better than a 4 team playoff and more inclusive.


The fear is that a 4 team playoff will kill the bowl system completely and cripple conferences like the AAC.

In a four team playoff, the four teams (99% of the time) will come from the SEC/B12/B10/P12/ACC/ND. While an undefeated AAC team might have a shot at getting in the playoffs, a 1 team AAC will almost never make the cut.

While a few bowls may survive in a playoff environment, they are going to demand big draws (B10/SEC/B12/ND/ACC/P12) for ratings/attendance reasons. A 1 loss Tulane/SMU/Houston will be left in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.


Total BCS propaganda there. A non BCS team has never been in the BCS championship game. A 1 loss AAC team does not have a shot at getting in the 2 team playoff now either.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:30 am
by NavyCrimson
Whatever the case, until you include all D-1 teams in a playoff much like baseball & basketball - you have no 'playoff'. LOL!!! It's all such a joke so why even watch???

People would be surprised how many supporters & alums of non-bcsBS teams do not watch the cartel's playoff system as it is now or was.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:16 am
by 1983 Cotton Bowl
It remains to be seen, but experience teaches that the system is becoming ever-less inclusive. I'm pretty confident that the 4 teams we see in the playoff will almost always be 4 P5 schools.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:28 am
by SMU 86
1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:It remains to be seen, but experience teaches that the system is becoming ever-less inclusive. I'm pretty confident that the 4 teams we see in the playoff will almost always be 4 P5 schools.


When has the BCS championship game ever had any team but a P5 team with the current two 2 system?

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:36 am
by NavyCrimson
And as long as the 'have-nots' sit on their lazy, collective #$#@ & do nothing, it'll always be this way.

As long as the big money supporters & the gov't (through the current student loan program subsidizing over-inflated tuition rates & research grants) continue to bail out these schools, nothing will EVER be done. Take these money sources away & you'll see a revolt you've never seen before!

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:46 am
by SMU 86
NavyCrimson wrote:And as long as the 'have-nots' sit on their lazy, collective #$#@ & do nothing, it'll always be this way.

As long as the big money supporters & the gov't (through the current student loan program subsidizing over-inflated tuition rates & research grants) continue to bail out these schools, nothing will EVER be done. Take these money sources away & you'll see a revolt you've never seen before!


Some of the have not's that are not lazy could not go to school without loans.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:58 am
by Digetydog
SMU 86 wrote:
Digetydog wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:He is on twitter arguing how a 2 team game is better than a 4 team playoff and more inclusive.


The fear is that a 4 team playoff will kill the bowl system completely and cripple conferences like the AAC.

In a four team playoff, the four teams (99% of the time) will come from the SEC/B12/B10/P12/ACC/ND. While an undefeated AAC team might have a shot at getting in the playoffs, a 1 team AAC will almost never make the cut.

While a few bowls may survive in a playoff environment, they are going to demand big draws (B10/SEC/B12/ND/ACC/P12) for ratings/attendance reasons. A 1 loss Tulane/SMU/Houston will be left in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.


Total BCS propaganda there. An non BCS team has never been in the BCS championship game. A 1 loss AAC team does not have a shot at getting in the 2 team playoff now either.


But, non BCS teams have played in the big bowl games where there is money to be made. Off the top of my head, Hawaii, Boise State, and TCU cashed some big checks.

While the BCS System is not "good" for non BCS teams, it is probably "less bad" than the 4 team playoff system.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:22 pm
by SMU 86
Digetydog, I don't know if you are familiar with the new provisions but a non BCS (non P5 team) is guaranteed to be in one of the big games evey year now. This year there were no non BCS teams in the BCS bowls. Next year there will be due to the guarantee of the highest ranking G5 team being in it. You must be reading anti 4 team playoff propaganda as well without knowing the provisions that have been made. Again, in most years a non BCS team does not make to one of the big bowls now there will one guaranteed every year. I hope that clears things up.

Re: Rick Hart is Pro BCS

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:39 pm
by Rebel10
SMU 86 wrote:Digetydog, I don't know if you are familiar with the new provisions but a non BCS (non P5 team) is guaranteed to be in one of the big games evey year now. This year there were no non BCS teams in the BCS bowls. Next year there will be due to the guarantee of the highest ranking G5 team being in it. You must be reading anti 4 team playoff propaganda as well without knowing the provisions that have been made. Again, in most years a non BCS team does not make to one of the big bowls now there will one guaranteed every year. I hope that clears things up.


True, the group of 5 guarantee makes the 4 team playoff better for getting non BCS teams to the six big bowl games while the old system does not. Here is a link to an article explaining it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... six-bowls/