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If someone doesn't want to steal your coach in 2-3 years, you have made a bad hire.

Only idiots worry that they might hire a coach that might leave for a "bigger" job.

If June had done his job, we wouldn't be stuck with him.

Duh

Didn't someone make a play for JJ about 2-3 years ago?
I mean, seriously?

Wasn't that the start of the 'everything JJ does is wrong' mindset?

leopold wrote:Didn't someone make a play for JJ about 2-3 years ago?
I mean, seriously?

Wasn't that the start of the 'everything JJ does is wrong' mindset?

Good point.

No, that incident was after other incidents such as the Daily Compost letter had already arose fan ire

I meant good point in the sense that by digetydog's definition June was a good hire since someone wanted to steal him.

However, even if the letter and some other things (new horses) had raised fan fire, many many people on here have said that it was the ASU incident that turned them against JJ.

And that person got fired for wanting to hire him.

SMUer wrote:And that person got fired for wanting to hire him.

If you disagree, blame digetydog for a bad definition. Or really blame dan wolken, who digetydog borrowed it from.

Grant Carter wrote:I meant good point in the sense that by digetydog's definition June was a good hire since someone wanted to steal him.

However, even if the letter and some other things (new horses) had raised fan fire, many many people on here have said that it was the ASU incident that turned them against JJ.

I forgot that someone wanted to hire Junesus. But, they sobered up and hired a real coach. If jones had done a good job, we wouldn't be stuck with him.

My only point was that smart ADs don't worry about hiring a guy who might leave. If LV hires Petrino and he leaves again, it was a good hire. Obrien was a good hire for PSU b/c he had the chance to leave. Houston hired Briles and Sumlin. Even though they left, they were great hires.

Bad hires are guys like Weis and Junesus who won't leave because they can't.


Cite to Wolken: People worry way too much in coaching searches about possibility someone will bolt if they're successful. Easiest way to make a bad hire

Digetydog wrote:

Grant Carter wrote:I meant good point in the sense that by digetydog's definition June was a good hire since someone wanted to steal him.

However, even if the letter and some other things (new horses) had raised fan fire, many many people on here have said that it was the ASU incident that turned them against JJ.

I forgot that someone wanted to hire Junesus. But, they sobered up and hired a real coach. If jones had done a good job, we wouldn't be stuck with him.

My only point was that smart ADs don't worry about hiring a guy who might leave. If LV hires Petrino and he leaves again, it was a good hire. Obrien was a good hire for PSU b/c he had the chance to leave. Houston hired Briles and Sumlin. Even though they left, they were great hires.

Bad hires are guys like Weis and Junesus who won't leave because they can't.


Cite to Wolken: People worry way too much in coaching searches about possibility someone will bolt if they're successful. Easiest way to make a bad hire

Yup yup

Digetydog wrote:

Grant Carter wrote:I meant good point in the sense that by digetydog's definition June was a good hire since someone wanted to steal him.

However, even if the letter and some other things (new horses) had raised fan fire, many many people on here have said that it was the ASU incident that turned them against JJ.

I forgot that someone wanted to hire Junesus. But, they sobered up and hired a real coach. If jones had done a good job, we wouldn't be stuck with him.

My only point was that smart ADs don't worry about hiring a guy who might leave. If LV hires Petrino and he leaves again, it was a good hire. Obrien was a good hire for PSU b/c he had the chance to leave. Houston hired Briles and Sumlin. Even though they left, they were great hires.

Bad hires are guys like Weis and Junesus who won't leave because they can't.


Cite to Wolken: People worry way too much in coaching searches about possibility someone will bolt if they're successful. Easiest way to make a bad hire

I agree except I think June was a good hire who was kept too long.

Digetydog wrote:My only point was that smart ADs don't worry about hiring a guy who might leave. If LV hires Petrino and he leaves again, it was a good hire. Obrien was a good hire for PSU b/c he had the chance to leave. Houston hired Briles and Sumlin. Even though they left, they were great hires.

WE STOLE JUNE FROM HAWAII. Any idea that we thought he would not look to leave forore money/better facilities/chance to win big should have been dispelled by the very way we got him. When ASU offered I understood why he looked to leave and, yes, it would have still been a good hire.


But hey - USC stole Lane Kiffin from Tennessee, so he must be awesome!!!

Funniest post I saw yesterday from a Tenn fan on LK:

LK to QB: Throw the ball to the other team!

QB: Sir?

LK: I SAID DO IT

Hiring June Jones after firing Dennis Erickson is like upgrading from a 93 Toyota Corolla to a 95 Saturn.

Not my words, but it summarizes it perfectly. It was a terrible potential hire for them, as evidenced by the booster mutiny and firing of the one person who tried to hire him.

Well Lane Kiffin is now the OC at Alabama...

Digetydog wrote:

Grant Carter wrote:I meant good point in the sense that by digetydog's definition June was a good hire since someone wanted to steal him.

However, even if the letter and some other things (new horses) had raised fan fire, many many people on here have said that it was the ASU incident that turned them against JJ.

I forgot that someone wanted to hire Junesus. But, they sobered up and hired a real coach. If jones had done a good job, we wouldn't be stuck with him.

My only point was that smart ADs don't worry about hiring a guy who might leave. If LV hires Petrino and he leaves again, it was a good hire. Obrien was a good hire for PSU b/c he had the chance to leave. Houston hired Briles and Sumlin. Even though they left, they were great hires.

Bad hires are guys like Weis and Junesus who won't leave because they can't.


Cite to Wolken: People worry way too much in coaching searches about possibility someone will bolt if they're successful. Easiest way to make a bad hire

Did you see the incompetent play-calling during the Texas Tech game?