Home and Home with OU or Arkansas

[Big12Mustang]

Can we get a Home and Home series started with OU or Arkansas?

We would have the best out of conference schedule, period.
Baylor
UNT
OU/Arkansas
TCU
8 AAC games

Thoughts?

[mrydel]

Arkansas has a 12 year contract with Aggie in Dallas, and OU and Texas play Dallas annually for now. Don't see either of them coming back for us and losing another home game every other year.

[East Coast Mustang]

Of course FTHP is way off the mark, but we should try and do a home-and-home with SEC schools like Vandy, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Miss St who want to recruit the DFW area but dont have games here already. Same goes for B12 schools like KSU and Kansas

[mrydel]

Or some Big 10 schools since we will be joining them soon.

[SMUer]

Done deal. Next week.

[blackoutpony]

OU plays in Dallas every year, no reason for them to come to ford whatsoever. Same with arky with aggie as previously stated.

FTHP Uneducated post #2,037 in the books

[ReedFrawg]

OU plays in Dallas every year, no reason for them to come to ford whatsoever. Same with arky with aggie as previously stated.

FTHP Uneducated post #2,037 in the books

FYI we have home and home with Arky in the next few years.

[mrydel]

I bet that was scheduled when it looked like the Arkie/Aggie series was going to home and home.

[SMUer]

Orsini couldn't bring down Notre Dame...deserved firing for that alone.

[Water Pony]

With TCU, Baylor and/or the Aggies, do we need another tough OOC opponent? If we have only two of these former SWC opponents, then find another Power Conference school from either the Big Ten or SEC, which would love to play in Dallas every other year.

Northwestern and Vanderbilt have great appeal as fellow private schools, but I question whether their fans will travel well. Schools that will travel include Mizzou, Ole MIss, Nebraska and maybe Iowa.

[Big12Mustang]

With TCU, Baylor and/or the Aggies, do we need another tough OOC opponent? If we have only two of these former SWC opponents, then find another Power Conference school from either the Big Ten or SEC, which would love to play in Dallas every other year.

Northwestern and Vanderbilt have great appeal as fellow private schools, but I question whether their fans will travel well. Schools that will travel include Mizzou, Ole MIss, Nebraska and maybe Iowa.

My reasoning to include another tough opponent is for strength of schedule purposes. Our conference is really weak next year for Football which will kill attendance even more for home conference games. If we can focus in winning our conference outright (8-0) then 1 or 2 wins vs. our out of conference slate sets us up for great things for our program and post season play. I don't even have to start naming the benefits and kudos we would gain from consistently beating TCU and stealing one from OU or Baylor every now and then. I would love to start playing OU every year, and it would not be bad to add another former SWC opponent.

[feelthehorsepower]

With TCU, Baylor and/or the Aggies, do we need another tough OOC opponent? If we have only two of these former SWC opponents, then find another Power Conference school from either the Big Ten or SEC, which would love to play in Dallas every other year.

Northwestern and Vanderbilt have great appeal as fellow private schools, but I question whether their fans will travel well. Schools that will travel include Mizzou, Ole MIss, Nebraska and maybe Iowa.

My reasoning to include another tough opponent is for strength of schedule purposes. Our conference is really weak next year for Football which will kill attendance even more for home conference games. If we can focus in winning our conference outright (8-0) then 1 or 2 wins vs. our out of conference slate sets us up for great things for our program and post season play. I don't even have to start naming the benefits and kudos we would gain from consistently beating TCU and stealing one from OU or Baylor every now and then. I would love to start playing OU every year, and it would not be bad to add another former SWC opponent.

Makes sense. But Arkansas won't schedule us. Probably OU but I prefer we get an ACC or Big Ten team to do home and home with

[Lefty]

I still like the idea of some random team from another part of the country that wants to recruit Texas. Not a national heavyweight, but something in that next tier, like Big 10 team that isn't Ohio State or an ACC team that isn't Florida State.

[Big12Mustang]

I still like the idea of some random team from another part of the country that wants to recruit Texas. Not a national heavyweight, but something in that next tier, like Big 10 team that isn't Ohio State or an ACC team that isn't Florida State.

NC State.

[Water Pony]

Schedule Home & Home with U. of Iowa, whose fans travel well. The Hawkeyes would love to have a Texas connection as does their non-conference, in-state rival, Iowa State. Plus, it is a Big Ten team where we need to be competitive.

Also, we have an historical connection with Iowa, due to Hayden Fry. They should thank us for firing him in 1972.

From Wikipedia:

The SMU Mustangs were members of the Southwest Conference at the time. Fry won the conference coach of the year award in his first season. In 1963, SMU opened the season with a 27–16 loss to a Michigan team coached by Bump Elliott, Fry's future boss at Iowa. SMU lost to Oregon in the 1963 Sun Bowl, 21–14. After the season, Fry was also appointed as SMU's athletic director.

When Fry took the job at SMU, he was promised that he would be allowed to recruit black athletes. Fry and the school wanted to make certain that the player they recruited was not only a good athlete but also a good student and citizen and someone with the mental toughness to be one of the first black players in conference history. Fry found that player in Jerry LeVias. LeVias was a great player, an exceptional student, and mentally tough. He had never had discipline problems and was deeply religious. LeVias was the perfect player for SMU.

Jerry LeVias had many other scholarship offers to good integrated schools, but he chose to attend SMU. LeVias became the first black player signed to a football scholarship in the Southwest Conference. In 1966, LeVias made his debut, one week after John Hill Westbrook of Baylor became the first black player to play for a conference team.[2] Fry received abuse for recruiting a black player to SMU in the form of hate mail and threatening phone calls, but he downplayed the treatment, because the harassment of LeVias was much, much worse.

SMU had an 8–2 record in 1966 and won its first Southwest Conference title in 18 years. LeVias was named to the all-conference team and handled the racial incidents well. SMU lost in the Cotton Bowl Classic to Georgia but finished the year ranked #10 in the nation. SMU had a down year in 1967, but LeVias was again an all-conference selection.

In 1968, SMU went 7–3 and defeated Oklahoma in the Bluebonnet Bowl. LeVias was selected as an all-conference player as a senior for the third time. Fry's Mustangs then had just a 12–20 record over the next three years from 1969–1971. That put Fry's job in jeopardy, and rumors started to swirl after Fry's Mustangs started the 1972 season at 4–4. Not even a three game winning streak could save Fry. After a 7–4 season in 1972, Fry was fired at SMU, which robbed the Mustangs of a bowl berth.

Hayden Fry compiled a 49–66–1 record in 11 seasons at SMU, including the school's only three winning seasons since the late 1940s. In Fry's autobiography, Fry stated that he believed his firing was related to several boosters' desire to start a slush fund to pay players and recruits. SMU was the second-smallest school in the Southwest Conference, and had found it difficult to compete over the last two decades against schools double its size or more. When he refused to go along with the plan, Fry said, the boosters pressured the school's new president to fire him. As it turned out, SMU would be hit with NCAA sanctions five times after Fry's departure before having its program completely shut down for the 1987 season due to a massive litany of misconduct. Most of the violations were related to the slush fund Fry had opposed several years earlier.