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Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:17 pm
by dr. rick
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-draft- ... 8A2FBNbK5_

"What small school prospect has big potential?

There are several possible answers to this question.

Wyoming QB Brett Smith is a draftnik favorite, San Jose State QB David Fales is among the most accurate quarterbacks in the draft, and Ball State QB Keith Wenning is one of the smartest quarterbacks in the class.

If we are talking about potential, though, the highest ceiling may belong to SMU QB Garrett Gilbert.

Gilbert went to the University of Texas as a highly touted recruit, but transferred to SMU after what can only be described as a disastrous stint as the Longhorns' quarterback.

After an up and down first season in Dallas, Gilbert came into his own in 2013. He completed 66% of his throws and posted a solid 3 to 1 TD-to-Interception ratio, albeit against below average competition.

That performance leads to a very simple question. Why was Gilbert able to all of a sudden start making solid football decisions after a long history of making poor ones?

Some of the credit has to go to SMU coach June Jones, who consistently gave Gilbert simple, half-field reads he could thrive in. Without having to worry much about complex passing schemes, Gilbert was able to use his above-average physical skills to deliver the ball with a confidence that was seriously lacking at Texas.

That is not to say all of Gilbert’s success was due to the system, though. He displayed good accuracy and understanding of ball placement on most occasions. He showed anticipation and the ability to throw receivers open. He also looked comfortable standing in the pocket and delivering the ball against a rush.

No matter how he played last season, however, the questions about Gilbert will always revolve around his decision-making ability, and his colossal struggles at Texas will continue to be the albatross hung round his neck.

The confidence he played with may go some way in answering his critics, but whether that new-found comfort is down to Gilbert's personal growth or June Jones’ system remains to be seen. Based on his physical tools, I am willing to put down a few chips to find out."

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:39 am
by JoeKidd
dr. rick wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-draft-cheatsheet-qbs-213000396--nfl.html;_ylt=AwrBJR6VAE9TiG8A2FBNbK5_

"What small school prospect has big potential?

There are several possible answers to this question.

Wyoming QB Brett Smith is a draftnik favorite, San Jose State QB David Fales is among the most accurate quarterbacks in the draft, and Ball State QB Keith Wenning is one of the smartest quarterbacks in the class.

If we are talking about potential, though, the highest ceiling may belong to SMU QB Garrett Gilbert.

Gilbert went to the University of Texas as a highly touted recruit, but transferred to SMU after what can only be described as a disastrous stint as the Longhorns' quarterback.

After an up and down first season in Dallas, Gilbert came into his own in 2013. He completed 66% of his throws and posted a solid 3 to 1 TD-to-Interception ratio, albeit against below average competition.

That performance leads to a very simple question. Why was Gilbert able to all of a sudden start making solid football decisions after a long history of making poor ones?

Some of the credit has to go to SMU coach June Jones, who consistently gave Gilbert simple, half-field reads he could thrive in. Without having to worry much about complex passing schemes, Gilbert was able to use his above-average physical skills to deliver the ball with a confidence that was seriously lacking at Texas.

That is not to say all of Gilbert’s success was due to the system, though. He displayed good accuracy and understanding of ball placement on most occasions. He showed anticipation and the ability to throw receivers open. He also looked comfortable standing in the pocket and delivering the ball against a rush.

No matter how he played last season, however, the questions about Gilbert will always revolve around his decision-making ability, and his colossal struggles at Texas will continue to be the albatross hung round his neck.

The confidence he played with may go some way in answering his critics, but whether that new-found comfort is down to Gilbert's personal growth or June Jones’ system remains to be seen. Based on his physical tools, I am willing to put down a few chips to find out."


Good article, but to be fair doesn't mention the colossal line problems both UT and SMU had that sure didn't help Gilbert.

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:21 pm
by ghost
Gilbert has the chance to be a solid qb. Just unlucky he went to UT when they were in a downward spiral but chose to blame the qb so they could keep their jobs and $5,000,000 for a few more years. And then SMU...how was he supposed to know that the head coach is really not the qb guru he once was 20 years ago.

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:32 pm
by sbsmith
ghost wrote:Gilbert has the chance to be a solid qb. Just unlucky he went to UT when they were in a downward spiral but chose to blame the qb so they could keep their jobs and $5,000,000 for a few more years. And then SMU...how was he supposed to know that the head coach is really not the qb guru he once was 20 years ago.



Gilbert's lousy play was a big part of that downward spiral in 2010, they started to come out of it the second they replaced him with a couple of lesser talents (David Ash and Case McCoy). He could have gotten ahold of some SMU tape from 2008-2011 to see evidence of June's budding fraudulence but the entire reason he came here was to be rubber-stamped into a starting QB job that would allow him to throw the ball 40+ times a game.

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:19 pm
by Big12Mustang
sbsmith wrote:
ghost wrote:Gilbert has the chance to be a solid qb. Just unlucky he went to UT when they were in a downward spiral but chose to blame the qb so they could keep their jobs and $5,000,000 for a few more years. And then SMU...how was he supposed to know that the head coach is really not the qb guru he once was 20 years ago.



Gilbert's lousy play was a big part of that downward spiral in 2010, they started to come out of it the second they replaced him with a couple of lesser talents (David Ash and Case McCoy). He could have gotten ahold of some SMU tape from 2008-2011 to see evidence of June's budding fraudulence but the entire reason he came here was to be rubber-stamped into a starting QB job that would allow him to throw the ball 40+ times a game.


Using this logic, we could say that with Burcham, SMU will get out of the rut from last season.

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:46 pm
by sbsmith
Big12Mustang wrote:
Using this logic, we could say that with Burcham, SMU will get out of the rut from last season.



That logic was in reference to Gilbert's troubles at Texas. He set the bar a lot higher for his replacement at SMU. Burcham may very well perform better than Gilbert this season provided divine intervention occurs :mrgreen:

Re: Yahoo analysis of Gilbertin Draft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:54 pm
by Big12Mustang
sbsmith wrote:
Big12Mustang wrote:
Using this logic, we could say that with Burcham, SMU will get out of the rut from last season.



That logic was in reference to Gilbert's troubles at Texas. He set the bar a lot higher for his replacement at SMU. Burcham may very well perform better than Gilbert this season provided divine intervention occurs :mrgreen:


Part of the problem was O Line, which both SMU and Texas sucked at. Now June just missed out on a 3 star OL kid that committed to BU...