Tulane new stadium ticket sales v. Ticket Sales at Ford

[hubberlang]

How many season tickets did we sell to Ford Stadium in its first year of 2000?

Reason for question:

I have a close friend that is a board member for the Tulane Athletic Foundation and he has been going on and on about Tulane's strategy of making a temporary move to AAC, building their new stadium, and then pumping up ticket sales and posting some winning records as a way to gain Big 12 entry since Tulane has been assured that the Big 12 really wants more access to SEC country.

Just yesterday he said something shocking to me, however. Tulane has already sold nearly 23,000 season tickets for football next year. If you have ever watched Tulane in the dome you know how shocking this number is for that program.

[Stallion]

I think SMU sold right at about 10,000-maybe 11,000 in the first year of Ford but it dwindled down after that.

[Big12Mustang]

How many season tickets did we sell to Ford Stadium in its first year of 2000?

Reason for question:

I have a close friend that is a board member for the Tulane Athletic Foundation and he has been going on and on about Tulane's strategy of making a temporary move to AAC, building their new stadium, and then pumping up ticket sales and posting some winning records as a way to gain Big 12 entry since Tulane has been assured that the Big 12 really wants more access to SEC country.

Just yesterday he said something shocking to me, however. Tulane has already sold nearly 23,000 season tickets for football next year. If you have ever watched Tulane in the dome you know how shocking this number is for that program.

Now that wouldn't be a smart move by the Big 12. You think SEC will stand idle and let them snag a team from their footprint? SEC will immediately come back and take Oklahoma from Big 12 setting off a realignment [Deleted] show all over again.

[East Coast Mustang]

How many season tickets did we sell to Ford Stadium in its first year of 2000?

Reason for question:

I have a close friend that is a board member for the Tulane Athletic Foundation and he has been going on and on about Tulane's strategy of making a temporary move to AAC, building their new stadium, and then pumping up ticket sales and posting some winning records as a way to gain Big 12 entry since Tulane has been assured that the Big 12 really wants more access to SEC country.

Just yesterday he said something shocking to me, however. Tulane has already sold nearly 23,000 season tickets for football next year. If you have ever watched Tulane in the dome you know how shocking this number is for that program.

Now that wouldn't be a smart move by the Big 12. You think SEC will stand idle and let them snag a team from their footprint? SEC will immediately come back and take Oklahoma from Big 12 setting off a realignment [Deleted] show all over again.

Wrong again. Oklahoma can't go anywhere without Okie State for political reasons.

[StallionsModelT]

Neither the SEC or the Big 12 give a damn about Tulane.

[East Coast Mustang]

Yeah, I can't see Tulane as anything more than another mouth to feed for the B12. Nola is a decent TV market but it's not DFW or Houston or Atlanta...and Tulane is just a blip on the radar there.

The SEC would never, ever consider them. Ever.

[StallionsModelT]

Once you get outside of the Garden District, no one in Nola gives a damn about Tulane either. It would take a TCU-esque rise to stardom for them to ever garner any real attention from the P5.

[gostangs]

The Big 12 would add SMU way before Tulane - and they will not add SMU unless they think we are about to jump somewhere else threatening, and even then probably not.

[East Coast Mustang]

I've always thought our best shot at a P5 conference would be the SEC declaring war on the B12 and adding us, giving them another presence in Texas alongside A&M, and numerous SEC games in Dallas each year. Of course, they already do this to some extent with games at Jerryworld. Think if A&M were playing LSU in College Station and we were playing Bama on a Saturday in Dallas- SEC football would be the talk of the state.

Yeah, it's a pipe dream and A&M probably wouldn't allow it, but just the only thing I can see that might be feasible in terms of P5 conference inclusion if we start winning consistently in football

The last thing the B12 wants is another power conference school in their backyard, though.

[Big12Mustang]

I've always thought our best shot at a P5 conference would be the SEC declaring war on the B12 and adding us, giving them another presence in Texas alongside A&M, and numerous SEC games in Dallas each year. Of course, they already do this to some extent with games at Jerryworld. Think if A&M were playing LSU in College Station and we were playing Bama on a Saturday in Dallas- SEC football would be the talk of the state.

Yeah, it's a pipe dream and A&M probably wouldn't allow it, but just the only thing I can see that might be feasible in terms of P5 conference inclusion if we start winning consistently in football

The last thing the B12 wants is another power conference school in their backyard, though.

A&M might allow it if they wanted to really strike a blow to Bevo and their 9 buddies...

[StallionsModelT]

The best (and probably only) chance for SMU to have a shot at P5 is some sort of agreed-upon mandate by the P5 to adopt the 5x14 or 5x16 model. As long as membership numbers are at the conference's discretion, we won't be getting an invite to move up unless we go on some otherworldly tear and rip off a couple 11 win seasons and basketball is a consistent national title contender (very possible). If each of the P5 agree that there must be 16 schools in each conference then I could see SMU being added. It really is a numbers game. There are, IMO, only a handful of G5 schools that add any real value to a P5 conference:

BYU
Cincinnati
UConn
UCF
USF
SMU
Houston
Boise State
Memphis

After that you get into schools with extremely shoddy academic problems or budgetary concerns like SDSU, Fresno State, UNLV, Colorado State, Temple, ECU, Tulsa, New Mexico.

After that everyone else is totally irrelevant.

[hubberlang]

Guys, all of the Big 12 stuff was for background context. My real reason for posting was that I was astonished Tulane booked 23,000 in season ticket sales next year since Stallion confirmed for me that we never have much more than 10,000 for Ford. As I recall the 20-25K was all TCU had when they were winning 11 games per year in the Mountain West for a sustained period. If 23,000 is a real number then it indicates to people who don't know better that Tulane's fan base doubles or triples SMU's fan base.

[StallionsModelT]

Good for them. We need the AAC to be as strong and viable as possible. I hope the stadium is full and the team is improving.

[Big12Mustang]

Guys, all of the Big 12 stuff was for background context. My real reason for posting was that I was astonished Tulane booked 23,000 in season ticket sales next year since Stallion confirmed for me that we never have much more than 10,000 for Ford. As I recall the 20-25K was all TCU had when they were winning 11 games per year in the Mountain West for a sustained period. If 23,000 is a real number then it indicates to people who don't know better that Tulane's fan base doubles or triples SMU's fan base.

Ever donned on you maybe their season ticket sales may be upticked by stubhubbers looking to profit from the new stadium and Georgia Tech coming to town?

[hubberlang]

I would be shocked if 13,000 extra tickets were actually bought for business gain, particularly with the Yellow Jackets being the best opponent on their schedule. If that actually happened in real life than A&M would unquestionably help us sell out our season ticket alotment for this year.

23,000 is just really surprising to me for Tulane