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Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:56 am
by SMU2007
E sanders has been doing a q&a on twitter and someone asked about June's playbook. Guess it's not shocking to anyone who watches the team that we don't have too many plays but isn't 15-20 pretty limited? No idea where most programs would rank, but thought it was interesting

@E_Sanders88: "@SteelCurtainPEH how thick is June Jones play book? 1 page or 5 million? Seems like it could be either! #AskE" not very thick. 15-20 plays

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:29 am
by malonish
Well each play gives each receiver at least 2 options so the variable complexity has the potential to grow. If the defense knows what to do they could limit it though.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:59 am
by PonyPride
I think malonish is right — it's not the number of plays, but the available variations. Jones works very closely with the receivers during practice, during the skeleton (no defense) and regular (with defense) passing drills. He and WRs coach Jason Phillips constantly offer advice to a player about how to line up, or they discuss what the WR sees from the DB. Both coaches spend loads of time saying "if the DB does this, you do that" … which can mean breaking off a route quickly to "sit" in a seam (Cole Beasley was great at that), racing across the field at a number of different angles, going deep, etc., and how to get by DBs in each scenario. They are absolutely meticulous about the detail of how the receivers get through press coverage, their footwork when running routes, etc., but the numerous variables within each play make the offense appear more complex than it is in the way it's written.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:20 pm
by Digetydog
SMU2007 wrote:E sanders has been doing a q&a on twitter and someone asked about June's playbook. Guess it's not shocking to anyone who watches the team that we don't have too many plays but isn't 15-20 pretty limited? No idea where most programs would rank, but thought it was interesting

@E_Sanders88: "@SteelCurtainPEH how thick is June Jones play book? 1 page or 5 million? Seems like it could be either! #AskE" not very thick. 15-20 plays


While June is not the perfect coach, one of his problems is not his "simple" offense.

From what I understand about the RnS, it has a relatively small number of plays but a huge number of options based upon what the defense does.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:27 pm
by blackoutpony
Bubble Screen
Fake Bubble Screen, Draw
Draw
Sweep
Counter
Scramble
Quick Slant
Quick Slants
Hooks
Deep Ball
Extra Deep Ball
Hail Mary
Punt
Quick Punt
Missed Field Goal

That's about all I got guys....

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:33 pm
by Digetydog
blackoutpony wrote:Bubble Screen
Fake Bubble Screen, Draw
Draw
Sweep
Counter
Scramble
Quick Slant
Quick Slants
Hooks
Deep Ball
Extra Deep Ball
Hail Mary
Punt
Quick Punt
Missed Field Goal

That's about all I got guys....


Does the pre-snap QB Walk of Shame count as a "Play?"

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:39 pm
by redpony
Digetydog wrote: Does the pre-snap QB Walk of Shame count as a "Play?"


Nope- that b fore-play.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:08 pm
by ghost
So 15-20 plays and the QB still has to go over to the sidelines after every play to talk to JJ? Just not what I pictured when he came to SMU. Thought he was a guru but turns out he was living on his past reputation a decade before and so were members of the media. So much potential at SMU even after four bowls.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:18 pm
by malonish
ghost wrote:So 15-20 plays and the QB still has to go over to the sidelines after every play to talk to JJ? Just not what I pictured when he came to SMU. Thought he was a guru but turns out he was living on his past reputation a decade before and so were members of the media. So much potential at SMU even after four bowls.


Someone might pick up on signals if there are 15 set ups for plays...

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:36 pm
by Junior
ghost wrote:So 15-20 plays and the QB still has to go over to the sidelines after every play to talk to JJ? Just not what I pictured when he came to SMU. Thought he was a guru but turns out he was living on his past reputation a decade before and so were members of the media. So much potential at SMU even after four bowls.

because there are no easy hand signals for "have that guy go over there, that guy come towards me, that guy go long and have the back block".

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:16 pm
by GiddyUp
21st play...qb run up the middle

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:25 pm
by gostangs
22nd play- QB runs for his life.

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:26 pm
by PonySnob
Miss the swinging gate..........

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:28 pm
by smupony94
All out

Re: Playbook

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:06 am
by MustangStealth
Digetydog wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:E sanders has been doing a q&a on twitter and someone asked about June's playbook. Guess it's not shocking to anyone who watches the team that we don't have too many plays but isn't 15-20 pretty limited? No idea where most programs would rank, but thought it was interesting

@E_Sanders88: "@SteelCurtainPEH how thick is June Jones play book? 1 page or 5 million? Seems like it could be either! #AskE" not very thick. 15-20 plays


While June is not the perfect coach, one of his problems is not his "simple" offense.

From what I understand about the RnS, it has a relatively small number of plays but a huge number of options based upon what the defense does.


Yeah, it's a small number of base plays but each receiver has multiple route options on each play which creates the variations. In my opinion this is fine for passes but really leaves a weakness in the running game. You will notice that we only have about 3 different run plays which become pretty easy to stop when you don't have Zach Line running them.