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Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby blackoutpony » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:54 pm

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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby Stallion » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:29 pm

HINT: This is at least the 4th or 5th loss by NCAA based on the Sherman Anti Trust Act. When the NCAA acts as a collective unit it is conspiring when it limits or attempts to control competition. I don't know why the non-F5 schools are so cowed from suing the NCAA (and the P5) under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. They have an absolutely horrible track record in Court-they lose them all. The NCAA and/or the P5 will continue to lose these cases unless or until they can obtain an antitrust exemption from Congress based upon a reasonable academic model that also provide reasonable protection for players. A Fair Deal. Its time to move the debate to a new branch of government because they are destroying College athletics.
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby East Coast Mustang » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:42 pm

Stallion wrote:HINT: This is at least the 4th or 5th loss by NCAA based on the Sherman Anti Trust Act. When the NCAA acts as a collective unit it is conspiring when it limits or attempts to control competition. I don't know why the non-F5 schools are so cowed from suing the NCAA (and the P5) under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. They have an absolutely horrible track record in Court-they lose them all. The NCAA and/or the P5 will continue to lose these cases unless or until they can obtain an antitrust exemption from Congress based upon a reasonable academic model that also provide reasonable protection for players. A Fair Deal. Its time to move the debate to a new branch of government because they are destroying College athletics.

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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby Stallion » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:17 pm

Plan B:
NCAA President Emmert recently discussed Plan B if the NCAA was unsuccessful in O'Bannon case stating that NCAA may seek to amend the Sherman Anti-Trust Act to provide an exemption.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/colleges ... 1406741252
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby East Coast Mustang » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:29 pm

I'm sure a bunch of Congressmen who are up for re-election every 24 months are going to want to jump in bed with the NCAA of all people.
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby Stallion » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:33 pm

They would to support State U. Maybe the smaller schools could get some protection. Maybe Plan B only comes AFTER the P5 have excluded the Have Nots-that very well could be the strategy
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby Topper » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:24 pm

Whatever your ,you have to believe that this Congress isn't likely to do much. The only issue where they found agreement recently has been the need to spend more on veterans. I see a lot of support for Congress to take action on this issue, but I think that there is no clear consensus as to what that action should be. In my opinion the whole BCS crap was nothing but a conspiracy to stifle competition and restrain trade. No one on Capitol Hill seemed to be particularly concerned.
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby PoconoPony » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:20 pm

The O'Bannon case is just a small hit for the NCAA. The judge's ruling is all over the board and limited from my reading. The NCAA can find away to cope with this case, but the problem is that there are at least 5 more law suits in the pipeline challenging the full gamut of potential revenue sources beyond O'Bannon's limited issue. Because of the O'Bannon ruling the door was kicked wide open for successful challenges by these successor law suits that will eventually give every football and basketball player full entitlements to all uses of their name, likeness in videos, TV and other media. At this point it will be chaos because the QBs will have more to offer than an O or D lineman and the money differences will be huge and not manageable. In the interim, all minor sports athletes were acknowledged and purposefully disregarded in the O'Bannon decision and that will sparks another round of law suits ad nauseam.

Real question is whether or not colleges should be in the professional entertainment business where the future $$$$$$ will sometimes far exceed the academic side of the house. Why should colleges be limited to athletics and not start, promote and control professional singing groups, orchestras, consulting firms...etc. as profit based professional/ entertainment businesses. In many ways colleges are already way down this road on the R & D side of the house. In 50 years the real winners will be the colleges that take the gambles, get lucky. stay creative and exploit what ever the future will afford them using athletics as the stepping stone for far more enterprises.
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby AusTxPony » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:24 pm

What happens when High School players start asking for payments for their likeness and health care and pensions?
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby PoconoPony » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:42 pm

AusTxPony wrote:What happens when High School players start asking for payments for their likeness and health care and pensions?


Why limit it to high schools. How about the Little League World Series which starts next week. These kids are on national TV and should be entitled to their share.
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Re: Judge Rules against NCAA in O'Bannon Case

Postby Stallion » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:33 am

good question when you talking about Allen, Southlake Carroll etc. I see no real distinguishing factor if the academic model is not a legitimate defense
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