Tom Herman (Info from OhioBrownFan)

[Rebel10]

This is a post from OhioBrownFan in the hoops section.

I don't want to post this over on the football board because I'm never over there so one of you guys can take it there if you want. But I've heard from two different people that I really trust on this sort of info that Tom Herman would be a guy that SMU will look hard it if they go the interim coach route for the rest of the year(which is what I assume they will do). It's very early and I got a call earlier that put it on my radar and reached out separately to someone else I trust and knows what is going on.

To give a bit of background, Tom is the Ohio State offensive coordinator at the moment. It makes a lot of sense on the surface and SMU would be the ideal fit. He was previously OC at Iowa State and did and great job there. He has strong Texas ties, has recruited the DFW very, very well for years. He's been offered lower end jobs before but I believe SMU is an ideal fit because he will not take a step back in salary and is going to a recruiting hot-bed that he knows inside and out. I just wanted to drop this note as I heard from a couple guys in the "know" and threw it out as a very real possibility. Wouldn't bring it here if it wasn't coming from the guys that it did.

As for him personally, I think he is a pretty good coach, he likes to run the spread offense and get guys out into space. Herman likes to use the perimeter game to create miss-matches; jet sweeps, bubble-screens, H-back role, multiple backs in the backfield and a lot of guys in motion. Right now, Dontre Wilson and Jalin Marshall are filling the H-back role if you're wondering what I'm talking about. Percy Harvin was the same at Florida for Urban. Just a heads up, hopefully SMU hits a homerun on the hire. One other factor that will come into effect is if Jerry can get Sumlin out of A&M at the season end.

[Comet]

Thanks for some rumor bombs OBF. I didn't really have Tom Herman on my radar before

[smusic 00]

Keep the rumors flying! This is the fun part of college football.

[RednBlue11]

We would hire a guy from OSU to be the interim? #brownsfansareidiots

[CalallenStang]

We would hire a guy from OSU to be the interim? #brownsfansareidiots

He is a Larry Brown fan, not a Browns fan

[Rebel10]

We would hire a guy from OSU to be the interim? #brownsfansareidiots

Looks like he may have mis-worded that.

[RednBlue11]

We would hire a guy from OSU to be the interim? #brownsfansareidiots

He is a Larry Brown fan, not a Browns fan

Not responsible for collateral slander

[OhioBrownFan]

We would hire a guy from OSU to be the interim? #brownsfansareidiots

He is a Larry Brown fan, not a Browns fan

Not responsible for collateral slander

You would not hire a guy from OSU to be the interim. Herman would be the head coach ASSUMING they hire an interim, aka assistant coach at SMU already, for the rest of the season.

I reached out to another guy inside the WHAC tonight (Woody Hayes Athletic Center) and he confirmed feelers have been sent out to a few already, Herman being one. I doubt anything will be publicly commented on, check that, HIGHLY doubt it until the season is over. Take it fwiw, but I really trust the guys that I'm talking to, their info is usually dead on and it's coming from two independent guys that I speak with on a regular basis. Just because Herman is being considered doesn't mean he will be hired but he is at the top of the wish list from the texts and call I received earlier in the day.

[gbene92]

Could they also be looking at Luke Fickell? He doesn't have many ties to Texas, but did a respectable job in his one season as head coach at Ohio State given the circumstances. I could see him doing really well at SMU, and I wouldn't mind having someone with a defensive skill set.

[OhioBrownFan]

Could they also be looking at Luke Fickell? He doesn't have many ties to Texas, but did a respectable job in his one season as head coach at Ohio State given the circumstances. I could see him doing really well at SMU, and I wouldn't mind having someone with a defensive skill set.

I personally like Luke Fickell and don't believe he's the problem with our defense. Our defense was at his best when he was a position coach at LBers...those were the days of Bobby Carpenter, Laurinaitis, AJ Hawk, Brian Rolle, ect. That said, many Buckeye fans will point to him as a problem when he assumed the DC responsibilities (he wasn't really making the play calls, that was Withers). Nonetheless, he is now back to purely coaching LBers even though he has the title of Co-DC. That's so that OSU can justify paying him the money that he makes.

That said, I see a few problems and don't think he's a good fit at SMU. 1) He's never recruited DFW or Texas, 2) He has no Texas ties, 3) I personally don't think he's really ready to take on DC responsibilities fully, 4) He's a former OSU player and loves the school. I really just don't think he's the right fit but at the same time, I do think it's time for a change of scenery for him because as long as he's with Ohio State and the defense isn't performing up to early-mid 2000's standards, he will be the scapegoat. It's an interesting thought and I've never considered it. Nobody that I've talked to even brought him up as someone that would go with Herman.

I personally think he's a good person and good coach, I don't know football like I do basketball but more than enough to get by and nothing to me suggests that he isn't a good leader. I just think he's in a tough spot right now at Ohio State. I think it would be best if he got experience elsewhere right now for his own sake before Urban tries to appease the masses and cuts him loose. He does love OSU through and through, not being a homer, just telling it like it is. I think he needs a change but SMU may not be the right place for him. I'd think a lower-level job in the MAC would be the best play for him next.

As for staff that I do think could possibly go with Herman, Tim Hinton may be the best bet. There's just not many that haven't been with Urban for a while or have strong ties to him. Larry Johnson is the best position coach on the staff, but he's fresh from PSU and has no ambition to be a coordinator, so he's not going anywhere. Zach Smith is an Urban guy from his Florida days. Ash is newly hired at DC from Arkansas and his next stop will be as a HC somewhere. Warinner may be a candidate but Herman would never hire him as OC and Urban wanted him for developing the OL (he sucks at recruiting to save you the guess work). Kerry Coombs is an Ohio HS coach with no Texas ties and has been relegated to cheerleader/special teams coach, good recruiter though. Drayton is an Urban guy from Florida but he may be someone that could get away, doubtful that Herman would want him in OC role either.

I don't know enough, I'll ask around about if any of the guys on staff would go with Herman but I just don't see a lot of options that would be attractive to Herman or that Meyer will let go. That's my opinion, I will get an opinion from guys in the know that might be attractive candidates. Fickell is one guy however that I don't think Urban would mind letting go, just a matter of him being a good fit with SMU and the state of Texas.

[OhioBrownFan]

I spoke with someone this morning. Said it was way to early to tell who Herman would be inclined to take. He cited many hurdles that I did in assistants that would go with him, said the obvious suspects would be offensive guys that Herman is closer to. That said, he had a pretty good reason for why each wouldn't. He doesn't think Zach Smith will leave because his grandfather is Earl Bruce, loves working with Urban, ect ect ect. Warinner would be slated to take a HC job fwiw. And this is likely Hinton's last stop, even though I've never specifically got that feeling from him.

[RednBlue11]

I spoke with someone this morning. Said it was way to early to tell who Herman would be inclined to take. He cited many hurdles that I did in assistants that would go with him, said the obvious suspects would be offensive guys that Herman is closer to. That said, he had a pretty good reason for why each wouldn't. He doesn't think Zach Smith will leave because his grandfather is Earl Bruce, loves working with Urban, ect ect ect. Warinner would be slated to take a HC job fwiw. And this is likely Hinton's last stop, even though I've never specifically got that feeling from him.

Hey everyone!! This guy over here knows more than you!... Just thought you'd like to know!

My myself and I can't agree so we're deferring to the "independent" guys... You know the guy who are aren't attached to... Something?

[OhioBrownFan]

I spoke with someone this morning. Said it was way to early to tell who Herman would be inclined to take. He cited many hurdles that I did in assistants that would go with him, said the obvious suspects would be offensive guys that Herman is closer to. That said, he had a pretty good reason for why each wouldn't. He doesn't think Zach Smith will leave because his grandfather is Earl Bruce, loves working with Urban, ect ect ect. Warinner would be slated to take a HC job fwiw. And this is likely Hinton's last stop, even though I've never specifically got that feeling from him.

Hey everyone!! This guy over here knows more than you!... Just thought you'd like to know!

My myself and I can't agree so we're deferring to the "independent" guys... You know the guy who are aren't attached to... Something?

Two guys independent of each other. I don't know more than most but when it comes to Ohio State and the staff, I know quite a bit. I have a lot of contacts in and around the program and I work in sports, it's my job to have a few guys that can spill things for me. If I didn't, I wouldn't have a job. But carry on...

[ideal]

Urban Meyer is a great guy, he is a LB. We need to look north, pony up.

[OhioBrownFan]

Urban Meyer is a great guy, he is a LB. We need to look north, pony up.

Morris would be my #1 w/o a doubt. Herman not far behind but I think Morris has some "star" power and will really pull kids in. I think for it to happen though, gotta pray Sumlin stays at A&M.