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The return of the pistol?

Postby B1GPonyFan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:22 am

Pure speculation. But it's been made known that practices are closed for a week. Couple that with Burcham being out for the year (sorry that he's hurt but it is addition by subtraction and he needs to go to a directional school next year) and Mason being at Nevada when pistol offense was coming into it's own all kind of adds up. Part of me thinks the Run N Shoot is gone.

Maybe this week is being used for the mass overhaul and going through the inner workings of it. Players and coaches need every second that counts.

I also think closing things down for a week is good for this program. Everybody in that locker room needs to bond together now because June had lost this team and that locker room was splitting IMO. June did them and everybody connected to SMU the biggest favor on Monday by stepping aside. Now, it's on this team to make something out of the season. 10 games left. Maybe the thing does turn into an 0-fer -- to me the record is secondary. But maybe they find their focus and passion to play. I just want to see effort because let's face it we saw none of that in the first two games.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby MustangStealth » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:30 am

He coached there for 2 years and was DC. I doubt it.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby Grant Carter » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:36 am

The co offensive coordinators are a run and shoot guy and a rns/spread guy. I doubt they know the intricacies of the pistol well enough to transition to it. I would not be surprised if we saw some less drastic changes to the offense though. Only natural that someone will have some ideas they could not convince their boss to let them try.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby NastyStang » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:39 am

I may be naive, but the first thing I thought about when JJ resigned was that the R&S was dead and we wouldn't see it the rest of the season. Is it difficult to move to a spread/pistol/whatever formation? All these kids have played in some variation of these offenses. Let's see Gaines at TE, WR's running routes that don't require two players to choose the same route with multiple choices. Let's see KC and Matt Davis run around. RIP R&S.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby mrydel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:48 am

Mason likes the pistol. If he is going to act like a head coach, we will see the pistol. If he is going to just get us through the rest of the season nothing will change. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:49 am

I am pretty sure regardless of the formation we will go in to games expecting to run the ball more than 18 times...
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby buckwheat » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:50 am

Use Davis' athleticism to the fullest, some form of the read option would be great.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby couch 'em » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:53 am

mrydel wrote:Mason likes the pistol. If he is going to act like a head coach, we will see the pistol. If he is going to just get us through the rest of the season nothing will change. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby mrydel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:35 am

You do not know that.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby couch 'em » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:47 am

mrydel wrote:You do not know that.
but you don't either, so I think your "if Mason acts like a head coach we will see pistol" dichotomy is unwarranted
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby JasonB » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:51 am

Mason likes the pistol, but if Morrison is calling the plays it is going to be R&S. If Phillips calls the plays, then there is a chance for the spread. If I were Mas, I would put someone in charge of the offense that is easier to work with, which would be Morrison. Which means sticking with the R&S.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby Pony_Law » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:53 am

Guys the coaches are professionals that have been in the industry of football there' whole lives. Th also put in the same or more hours of work than the average full time employee (practice is only part of their day). If the head coach wants torunt he pistol he can 1) get a play book (if he doesn't have one already) 2) tell everyone on staff to learn the concepts of the offense (if they don't already know which they probably do) and 3) tell his staff to teach it to the kids (and they are alle experts at teaching kids what they want them to do on the football field.

Simply put if they want to run a pistol pretty much any coach can probably teach it. The true difference of having a the expert in an offense is understanding how to adjust it based on match ups and opponent scheme and to develop additional wrinkles overtime so your opponents can't predict what you are going to do on every play. Football gets built up as a hugely complicated thing because we invest so much money into it but it's not rocket science or neuro surgery.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby mrydel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:41 am

couch 'em wrote:
mrydel wrote:You do not know that.
but you don't either, so I think your "if Mason acts like a head coach we will see pistol" dichotomy is unwarranted

Nothing I ever say or do is warranted.
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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby Cadillac » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:54 am

Matt Davis in the Pistol is going to be giving me some serious 2007 flashbacks. It would be pretty funny to wind up right back where we started with the Jones era.

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Re: The return of the pistol?

Postby JoeKidd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:56 am

Pony_Law wrote:Guys the coaches are professionals that have been in the industry of football there' whole lives. Th also put in the same or more hours of work than the average full time employee (practice is only part of their day). If the head coach wants torunt he pistol he can 1) get a play book (if he doesn't have one already) 2) tell everyone on staff to learn the concepts of the offense (if they don't already know which they probably do) and 3) tell his staff to teach it to the kids (and they are alle experts at teaching kids what they want them to do on the football field.

Simply put if they want to run a pistol pretty much any coach can probably teach it. The true difference of having a the expert in an offense is understanding how to adjust it based on match ups and opponent scheme and to develop additional wrinkles overtime so your opponents can't predict what you are going to do on every play. Football gets built up as a hugely complicated thing because we invest so much money into it but it's not rocket science or neuro surgery.


It is apparent you have no idea about how much really goes into learning an offense for a coaching staff and the team. No way we change offensive systems, will probably use more of the offensive playbook we used last year and alternate QB's to play to Kolney and Matt's strengths.
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