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Consistently underachieved at Texas despite amazing facilities and the best recruiting hotbed in America. Thanks but no thanks

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This would be a terrible hire for SMU.

DOUBLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

The case for Mack:

Instant legitimacy with recruits, HS Coaches, Media, general public.

He is available and could perhaps save this year's recruiting class.

Possibility of more Texas transfers or players who have already left Texas (after all, our highest rated recruits for the last decade were former Texas players...)

He might be able to bring in a strong staff around him. Applewhite? Coach in waiting scenario?

He could be a powerful ally for SMU in any future conference realignment.

I am liking this idea a lot - just question if he would actually consider it. Perhaps we can get Larry Brown to make a call...

East Coast Mustang wrote:Consistently underachieved at Texas despite amazing facilities and the best recruiting hotbed in America. Thanks but no thanks

Perhaps I am wrong, but didn't he win the only National Championship by a Texas School in the last 40+ years?

PonyTime wrote:The case for Mack:

Instant legitimacy with recruits, HS Coaches, Media, general public.

He is available and could perhaps save this year's recruiting class.

Possibility of more Texas transfers or players who have already left Texas (after all, our highest rated recruits for the last decade were former Texas players...)

He might be able to bring in a strong staff around him. Applewhite? Coach in waiting scenario?

He could be a powerful ally for SMU in any future conference realignment.

I am liking this idea a lot - just question if he would actually consider it. Perhaps we can get Larry Brown to make a call...

These are all SHORT TERM advantages.

It might work with a 2 or 3 year contract but for the long term, this would be terrible for SMU.

Look at his record at Texas.

Texas is one of the best records from the past decade.

Given his last few years sucked, he was not an overall bad coach.

Short term? If we hire one of these hot young assistants that people on this board want they will either be a success and be gone in 3 or 4 years or a bust. We are not going to hire a guy that is going to be here for 10 years. We need to be realistic. At least Mac has won everywhere he has been and can set us up for ten future.

I love seeing the "he can't coach" and "he's not nothing" crowd come out of the wordwork. He has skins on the wall in multi-locations, and would be a HUGE step up for our program. It appears to be a pipe dream, but we could do so much worse.

DiamondM75 wrote:

PonyTime wrote:The case for Mack:

Instant legitimacy with recruits, HS Coaches, Media, general public.

He is available and could perhaps save this year's recruiting class.

Possibility of more Texas transfers or players who have already left Texas (after all, our highest rated recruits for the last decade were former Texas players...)

He might be able to bring in a strong staff around him. Applewhite? Coach in waiting scenario?

He could be a powerful ally for SMU in any future conference realignment.

I am liking this idea a lot - just question if he would actually consider it. Perhaps we can get Larry Brown to make a call...

These are all SHORT TERM advantages.

It might work with a 2 or 3 year contract but for the long term, this would be terrible for SMU.

You are correct about that. But we cannot afford to slip into long term purgatory of irrelevance with recruits, HS Coaches, Media, etc right now. I fear that JJ has done such damage that a young up and comer might need 4-5 years to start to turn things around.

His 101-16 record from 2001-2009 is one of the greatest sustained periods of success in College Football History. That said-something changed in his ability to analyze and develop recruits. Was it recruiting TOO early. Was it a Culture of Entitlement? I think it might have been Coaching Staff turnover as Coaches left that eventually took the Coaches who were making those recruiting decisions and developing those players. Because they got the players they wanted in those later years-"they just kinda laid there". In any event, Brown could definitely win at SMU and if those top rising Offensive Mastermind Coaches are not interested, Brown would be a solid fall-back

I think it was said about Mack Brown that never has somebody done so little with so much.

Stallion wrote:His 101-16 record from 2001-2009 is one of the greatest sustained periods of success in College Football History. That said-something changed in his ability to analyze and develop recruits. Was it recruiting TOO early. I think it might have been Coaching Staff turnover as Coaches left that eventually took the Coaches who were making those recruiting decisions

The issue, at least for me, isn't the record from 2001 to 2009... it's what has happened since then. The only conclusion I can come to is that he got complacent and wasn't working as hard in recruiting or in player development.

When you've had a decade of top 10 recruiting classes and you have even 1 year where not one player gets drafted, there is something seriously wrong with the way you're running your program.

We're in the mess we're in now because June Jones got complacent... no way do I want a replacement coach that is only available because he, too, got complacent.

East Coast Mustang wrote:Consistently underachieved at Texas despite amazing facilities and the best recruiting hotbed in America. Thanks but no thanks

That "story" is a complete fabrication of what happened in Austin.

From DKR until Mack arrived, Texas was mediocre under Akers, McWilliams, and Mackovic. Before Mack Brown, Texas had gone 35 years without a National Championship. From 1998-2009, his teams won at least 9 games and went to decent bowl games. In BCS games, Mack went 3-1 and probably would have been 4-1 but for McCoy's injury against Alabama.

Even with a depleted team, he managed to get 9 wins out of Texas last year - will Strong??

Overall record under Brown: 158–48
Bowl Record: 9-5