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25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:33 am
by peruna81
Still waiting for other 'originated' lists, rather than just revising this one.

Nevertheless, the "revised" list:

Doak
Steve Lundquist
Eric Dickerson
Jerry LeVias
Kyle Rote
Louie Kelcher
Jim Krebs
Russell Carter FB & TR
Michael Carter FB &TR
Don Meredith
Jon Koncak
Gene Phillips
Forrest Gregg
Ira Terrell
Craig James
Chuck Hixon
Lars Frolander
Harry Shuford
Emmanuel Tolbert
Lance McIlhenny
Payne Stewart
Reggie Dupard
Clement "THE BLOCK" Fox
Don Stewart
Gary Hammond
Bobby Wilson
Jerry Heidenreich
Harvey Armstrong

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:49 am
by Stallion
sorry Mike Livingston wasn't a Top 25 at least at SMU. Neither was Raymond Berry

maybe Wes Hopkins or Gary Moten or John Simmons instead. Simmons had one of the greatest years ever as a Senior All-American

Oh and David Richards was better than all of them-but I guess he didn't graduate from SMU

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:53 am
by ojaipony
Top 25 is tough, but maybe take it out to top 30-50.

If so, would you put Thomas Morstead, Cole Beasley, and Emmanuel Sanders on that list since they are having stellar pro careers? Also, and I don't think he was a player, but I still like seeing Lamar Hunt on lists like this. :-)

And, if we go there, I'd also add Ron Meyer, Larry Brown, Doc Hayes, and Hayden Fry to the list. (give Chad Morris 3-5 more years and his name might appear there, too).

I would also vote for Ramon Flanigan, Brian Berry, Lance, and Reggie Dupard. You would also need to add Hernandez for soccer. Don't we also have some other Olympians (Brian, etc)? If we keep it to top 25 I think Hernandez needs to be on it (he won the equivalent of the Heisman in soccer after all).

Jerry Ball?

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:04 am
by Stallion
I also think Harvey Armstrong was better than Michael Carter at SMU-easily

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:10 am
by well travelled pony
In swimming, I would add Mook Rhodenbaugh and Ryan Berube, maybe Ricardo Prado too.

Agreed on Jerry Ball too.

Michael Carter for track and field as well as his football. He was just a monster athlete.

Go Ponies!

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:22 am
by EastStang
We've had some women athletes who might get on the list too.

Christine Loock -Diver
Cindy Potter, Diver
Kyle O'Brien, golfer
Martina Moriscova, Swimmer

Some women throwers as well.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:23 am
by smusportspage
Jerry Heidenreich should be included on that list.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:23 am
by Digetydog
peruna81 wrote:I have been listening recently here in Aggie-town to the local radio station as they counted down the top 100 Aggie players of all time...it got me to thinking, and searching this site. There have been three threads that dealt with this in part, but I would like to hear if there have been any revelations or changes, and the top 25 would not be limited solely to football only...
On the football board because I believe we have more there than any other sport.

Doak
Steve Lundquist
Eric Dickerson
Jerry LeVias
Kyle Rote
Louie Kelcher
Jim Krebs
Russell Carter
Michael Carter
Don Meredith
Jon Koncak
Gene Phillips
Forrest Gregg
Ira Terrell
Craig James
Chuck Hixon
Mike Livingston
Harry Shuford
Emmanuel Tolbert
Lance McIlhenny
Payne Stewart
Reggie Dupard
Raymond Berry
Don Stewart
Ken Merten


Lars Frolander has competed in 6 Olympics in swimming (that has to be a record) and won a Gold Medal.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:26 am
by smupony94
Mark Rydel was pretty good

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:29 am
by mrydel
I usually fall just outside of these lists.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:43 am
by JasonB
Nic Moore probably creeps in there after he graduates.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:14 pm
by PonyFan32
Can't think of any possibilities people have missed other than Gary Hammond perhaps.

Even as much futility as we've had in the revenue sports the last 30 years, it is really hard to pick just 25 (and that's even not including the non-revenue sports, where we've had some tremendous performers). I know they probably arent near the Gene, Jim, Ira level but what about Sasser and Ross? I'm sure the number of amazing football players probably pushes them outside the all-sports Top 25.

This reminds me that I sympathize heavily with the swimmers... if America didn't produce a ridiculous amount of top level swimmers, I would have had at least 1 friend from my time in school competing in the Olympics.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:12 pm
by Nacho
any list w/o gary hammond is completely bogus.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:29 pm
by SoCal_Pony
smusportspage wrote:Jerry Heidenreich should be included on that list.


Yep

Also, Putt Choate deserves some mention, as does Bobby Wilson.

Re: 25 greatest SMU players...

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:32 pm
by malonish
Malonish- Top 5 SMU fighter :mrgreen: