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@smdrjoe: This just in: #TXST will face SMU in a home-and-home series, a source confirmed to me. Series will be 2018, 2019.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/smu-mustangs.php:

2018:
@ UNT
@ Michigan
TCU
TxSt (assuming home)

2019:
@ ArkSt
UNT
@ TxSt
??? @ TCU?

Not really a fan of the 2019 schedule.

Should we expect 3-1 at worst in 2019 for our non-conference record?

2019 and 2020

2019 schedule will give us a chance to go to a P5 major bowl game.

I'll take this over getting gutted by A&M early all day. Lets see what our fan base can be if we are 6-7 games into the season with one loss. Yes, its a bit fake, but Dallas doesn't care. They just want wins. They aren't going to come see SMU without a connection unless we are winning lots of games.

This is how you build a program. Once you get 4 years of recruiting depth you start moving up the ladder.

Rebel10 wrote:2019 schedule will give us a chance to go to a P5 major bowl game.

I'm not so sure about that; it'd be a pretty weak OOC slate even when compared to other G5 programs.

Edit: I've always been in favor of building from the ground up with one or two perennially "weak" P5 teams like Wake Forest, Washington St., etc. each year and then 2 cupcakes. However, by 2019 one would assume that the foundation would be set for something more like 2 P5s (TCU + WF/WSU) and 2 cupcakes instead of TCU + 3 cupcakes. I'll admit that Arkansas State is a good program, but we'd get more out of playing a P5.

Who knows (except those in the know). Maybe we're having difficulty scheduling P5s, or maybe the department has decided that quantity of wins will trump quality of wins going into the next (last?) round of realignment. I have full faith in them regardless.

GreenbeltPony wrote:

Rebel10 wrote:2019 schedule will give us a chance to go to a P5 major bowl game.

I'm not so sure about that; it'd be a pretty weak OOC slate even when compared to other G5 programs.

Edit: I've always been in favor of building from the ground up with one or two perennially "weak" P5 teams like Wake Forest, Washington St., etc. each year and then 2 cupcakes. However, by 2019 one would assume that the foundation would be set for something more like 2 P5s (TCU + WF/WSU) and 2 cupcakes instead of TCU + 3 cupcakes. I'll admit that Arkansas State is a good program, but we'd get more out of playing a P5.

Who knows (except those in the know). Maybe we're having difficulty scheduling P5s, or maybe the department has decided that quantity of wins will trump quality of wins going into the next (last?) round of realignment. I have full faith in them regardless.

Better to have these games that will at least put us in the conversation of a major bowl than a schedule like last year and get blow out of a couple of the first few games that takes us out of the conversation early.

SMU 86 wrote:

GreenbeltPony wrote:

Rebel10 wrote:2019 schedule will give us a chance to go to a P5 major bowl game.

I'm not so sure about that; it'd be a pretty weak OOC slate even when compared to other G5 programs.

Edit: I've always been in favor of building from the ground up with one or two perennially "weak" P5 teams like Wake Forest, Washington St., etc. each year and then 2 cupcakes. However, by 2019 one would assume that the foundation would be set for something more like 2 P5s (TCU + WF/WSU) and 2 cupcakes instead of TCU + 3 cupcakes. I'll admit that Arkansas State is a good program, but we'd get more out of playing a P5.

Who knows (except those in the know). Maybe we're having difficulty scheduling P5s, or maybe the department has decided that quantity of wins will trump quality of wins going into the next (last?) round of realignment. I have full faith in them regardless.

Better to have these games that will at least put us in the conversation of a major bowl than a schedule like last year and get blow out of a couple of the first few games that takes us out of the conversation early.

To play with the best (aka a major bowl) you gotta beat the best. 2019 schedule blows donkey balls. I'm with Greenbelt on scheduling TCU, two beaters, and a low rung P-5

so the only difference in what you described and what we have is replacing UNT with a low P-5? I could see that - and maybe we try that in 2020. I am sure the plan is to roll these lower schools off as we get better. For now I'll take the wins - we've tried the other and it doesn't work.

blackoutpony wrote:To play with the best (aka a major bowl) you gotta beat the best. 2019 schedule blows donkey balls. I'm with Greenbelt on scheduling TCU, two beaters, and a low rung P-5

Not really. Who did Boise play in there OOC last year? If Marshall does not lose that last game they were in it and they did not have a world beater OOC. You have to give yourself a chance, we are not Alabama.

gostangs wrote:so the only difference in what you described and what we have is replacing UNT with a low P-5? I could see that - and maybe we try that in 2020. I am sure the plan is to roll these lower schools off as we get better. For now I'll take the wins - we've tried the other and it doesn't work.

I'd personally replace Texas State. UNT is at least a relatively short drive away and they'll add (somewhat) to the attendance. Plus, we have a decade-long series with them which suggests some commitment from both departments.

Rebel10 wrote:Not really. Who did Boise play in there OOC last year? If Marshall does not lose that last game they were in it and they did not have a world beater OOC. You have to give yourself a chance, we are not Alabama.

OOC SOS does in fact matter for the Access bowl slot. Marshall played Miami (OH), Rhode Island, Ohio, and Akron. Boise St. played Ole Miss, UCONN, LA-Lafayette, and BYU.

Marshall was 11-0 and ranked #24 going into that last game against W Kentucky. Boise St. was 10-1 and ranked #23 going into their last game against Utah State. Boise St. went up to #22 after their win; I highly doubt that Marshall would have jumped 3 spots. Sure, one could argue that under these circumstances Boise St. had some recognition bias, but the one thing everyone knew was that Marshall's SOS, including the OOC slate, was abysmal at best.

I wish I could remember the PF poster's name that dated a girl from Texas State until he saw pictures of her doing the entire offensive line of the TS football team

Hahaha no shxt do tell

GreenbeltPony wrote:

gostangs wrote:so the only difference in what you described and what we have is replacing UNT with a low P-5? I could see that - and maybe we try that in 2020. I am sure the plan is to roll these lower schools off as we get better. For now I'll take the wins - we've tried the other and it doesn't work.

I'd personally replace Texas State. UNT is at least a relatively short drive away and they'll add (somewhat) to the attendance. Plus, we have a decade-long series with them which suggests some commitment from both departments.

Rebel10 wrote:Not really. Who did Boise play in there OOC last year? If Marshall does not lose that last game they were in it and they did not have a world beater OOC. You have to give yourself a chance, we are not Alabama.

OOC SOS does in fact matter for the Access bowl slot. Marshall played Miami (OH), Rhode Island, Ohio, and Akron. Boise St. played Ole Miss, UCONN, LA-Lafayette, and BYU.

Marshall was 11-0 and ranked #24 going into that last game against W Kentucky. Boise St. was 10-1 and ranked #23 going into their last game against Utah State. Boise St. went up to #22 after their win; I highly doubt that Marshall would have jumped 3 spots. Sure, one could argue that under these circumstances Boise St. had some recognition bias, but the one thing everyone knew was that Marshall's SOS, including the OOC slate, was abysmal at best.

Had Marshall won they would have been in imo. But they were in the conversation even with the weak OOC because they were UNDEFEATED. That is my point. UConn was not good, LA Laf is Sunbelt and BYU lost their starting QB. We need to be at lease in the conversation and 2 loses will take us out of the conversation. And with TCU it will be a better schedule than what Marshall had this year.