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Postby MustangStealth » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:51 am

Highest % big plays (runs>10, pass>20) among P5:
GaTech 17.7%
OhioSt 17.6%
Oregon 16.8%
Miami 16.5%
Auburn 16.3%
TCU 15.4%


Interestingly, out of these teams, only TCU is a "pass first" offense. All of the others use more run plays. I hate the current trend towards "pass, pass, and pass some more". I don't care if it looks more exciting, it is not as effective.
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Re: Big Plays

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Re: Big Plays

Postby smusic 00 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:05 am

Pretty interesting. Also consider that JJ used the big play stat a lot in determining how good the offense played. Should be fun to see a real 'run to set up the pass' look.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby Digetydog » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:32 pm

MustangStealth wrote:Highest % big plays (runs>10, pass>20) among P5:
GaTech 17.7%
OhioSt 17.6%
Oregon 16.8%
Miami 16.5%
Auburn 16.3%
TCU 15.4%


Interestingly, out of these teams, only TCU is a "pass first" offense. All of the others use more run plays. I hate the current trend towards "pass, pass, and pass some more". I don't care if it looks more exciting, it is not as effective.


When faced with an effective running game, the defense must keep its safeties closer to the LOS. When that happens, it is easier to blow the top off the defense with play action/misdirection plays. Furthermore, it creates more room for WR's and TE's working the seams.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby No Quarter » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:42 pm

I don't know the date of the chart from which the percentages were taken, but sure hope it will be checked again when the returns are available for the 2015 season.

And I'm curious. Where was Clemson on the list? How did the total offenses and W - L records compare for the teams named.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby footballdad » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:58 pm

Surprised Miami there, and not Baylor?
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Re: Big Plays

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:18 pm

MustangStealth wrote:Highest % big plays (runs>10, pass>20) among P5:
GaTech 17.7%
OhioSt 17.6%
Oregon 16.8%
Miami 16.5%
Auburn 16.3%
TCU 15.4%


Interestingly, out of these teams, only TCU is a "pass first" offense. All of the others use more run plays. I hate the current trend towards "pass, pass, and pass some more". I don't care if it looks more exciting, it is not as effective.

Where did you pull those stats from (thin air)? Link? I like a more balanced attack not just run, run, run.

I am sure if they made 10 yard pass plays big plays then the stats would be more even. Most spread team get their players out in space by short passes to try to gain 7 to 10 yards. Clemson may have shown up then.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby MustangStealth » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:39 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Where did you pull those stats from (thin air)? Link?


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Re: Big Plays

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:42 pm

I like Clenson's offense better than Georgia Tech's anyday.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby smusic 00 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:50 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
MustangStealth wrote:Highest % big plays (runs>10, pass>20) among P5:
GaTech 17.7%
OhioSt 17.6%
Oregon 16.8%
Miami 16.5%
Auburn 16.3%
TCU 15.4%


Interestingly, out of these teams, only TCU is a "pass first" offense. All of the others use more run plays. I hate the current trend towards "pass, pass, and pass some more". I don't care if it looks more exciting, it is not as effective.

Where did you pull those stats from (thin air)? Link? I like a more balanced attack not just run, run, run.

I am sure if they made 10 yard pass plays big plays then the stats would be more even. Most spread team get their players out in space by short passes to try to gain 7 to 10 yards. Clemson may have shown up then.


That's why pass plays shorter than 20 yards aren't considered big plays. June explained it back when he let us have lunch with him.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:24 pm

I guess he used June's system in determining what a big play is then.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby BigT3x » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:57 pm

MustangStealth wrote:I don't care if it looks more exciting, it is not as effective.

There's a lot of people who get paid a lot of money to coach football who seem to disagree with this assertion...
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Re: Big Plays

Postby smusic 00 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:59 pm

Rebel10 wrote:I guess he used June's system in determining what a big play is then.


It's the widely accepted definition. But I'm tired now.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:21 pm

smusic 00 wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:I guess he used June's system in determining what a big play is then.


It's the widely accepted definition. But I'm tired now.

I guess I missed reading the survey indicating that.
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Re: Big Plays

Postby Grant Carter » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:15 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
smusic 00 wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:I guess he used June's system in determining what a big play is then.


It's the widely accepted definition. But I'm tired now.

I guess I missed reading the ssurvey indicating that.

I guess so
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