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Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:12 pm
by Digetydog
http://www.baylor.edu/hhpr/index.php?id=55756

To be fair, the program leads to a degree in "Bachelor Degree in Health, Kinesiology and Leisure Studies."

"the program offers a broad undergraduate background for students who have not made a definite career choice but who want a university degree. Another useful feature of this program is the thirty-one semester hours of general electives which may be used in at least two valid ways. First, if the student does not need a major field of concentration this area can serve to allow for the development of a series of support modules. Such structure can consist of two, three, or more mini-concentrations which support various areas of the selected career, or provide preparation in non-career areas of interest."

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:53 pm
by Bergermeister
Digetydog wrote: "the program offers a broad undergraduate background for students who have not made a definite career choice but who want a university degree. Another useful feature of this program is the thirty-one semester hours of general electives which may be used in at least two valid ways. First, if the student does not need a major field of concentration this area can serve to allow for the development of a series of support modules. Such structure can consist of two, three, or more mini-concentrations which support various areas of the selected career, or provide preparation in non-career areas of interest."

Good lord. Who writes this crap for college course descriptions? Bet the committee got a good chuckle out of this one.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:13 pm
by PonyKai

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:43 pm
by smusportspage
Oh my.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:00 pm
by Rebel10
Baylor gets it. TCU probably has something similar. Best we can do is Sports Management and that is fine for G5 play but if we get in a P5 conference we better have a Public Administration or Leisure Studies major as well if we want to compete.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:03 pm
by smusic 00
What about Leisure Suits Studies?

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:07 pm
by Stallion
Baylor calls its degree Health, Kinesiology and Leisure Studies
SMU has an Applied Physiology and Wellness Major
http://www.smu.edu/Simmons/ProspectiveStudents

I see no functional difference between a Kinesiology major and an Applied Physiology major-in fact a bunch of schools call that major Applied Physiology and Kinesiology

What's the difference between Wellness and Leisure? Perhaps that SMU isn't dumb enough to call its major "Leisure Studies"

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:13 pm
by Stallion
"Exercise physiology and kinesiology are two similar but distinct fields of study. Both fields are associated with exercise and performance."

"Kinesiology is the study of human movement, function and performance and its effect on human health. It deals specifically with the mechanics of movement. On the other hand, exercise physiology focuses on the human response and adaptation to exercise. It deals with the underlying mechanisms responsible for the effects of exercise on human health."

http://www.livestrong.com/article/55582 ... nesiology/

Many of the courses under the major would fit comfortably within the definition of Kinesiology above.

http://www.smu.edu/Simmons/AreasOfStudy ... SM_Catalog

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:22 pm
by Rebel10
Stallion wrote:"Exercise physiology and kinesiology are two similar but distinct fields of study. Both fields are associated with exercise and performance."

"Kinesiology is the study of human movement, function and performance and its effect on human health. It deals specifically with the mechanics of movement. On the other hand, exercise physiology focuses on the human response and adaptation to exercise. It deals with the underlying mechanisms responsible for the effects of exercise on human health."

http://www.livestrong.com/article/55582 ... nesiology/

Many of the courses under the major would fit comfortably within the definition of Kinesiology above.

http://www.smu.edu/Simmons/AreasOfStudy ... SM_Catalog


Does not sound like a General Studies program to me. :mrgreen:

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:27 pm
by Stallion
Under NCAA rule you have to declare a major by something like the start of 3rd year so you can't remain in a general studies program-SMU would have to offer a general studies degree program to all its students or it would be a violation of NCAA rules. You can't just let student/athlete remain in university/college (or whatever SMU calls it these days) to retain eligibility-they have to progress toward an actual major

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:56 pm
by Digetydog
Stallion wrote:Baylor calls its degree Health, Kinesiology and Leisure Studies
SMU has an Applied Physiology and Wellness Major
http://www.smu.edu/Simmons/ProspectiveStudents

I see no functional difference between a Kinesiology major and an Applied Physiology major-in fact a bunch of schools call that major Applied Physiology and Kinesiology

What's the difference between Wellness and Leisure? Perhaps that SMU isn't dumb enough to call its major "Leisure Studies"


The difference is our major has an actual curriculum designed to prepare people for life after SMU: http://www.smu.edu/Simmons/AreasOfStudy ... Curriculum

In contrast, the Baylor "program" allows 31 hours of electives.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:48 pm
by Rebel10
Stallion wrote:Under NCAA rule you have to declare a major by something like the start of 3rd year so you can't remain in a general studies program-SMU would have to offer a general studies degree program to all its students or it would be a violation of NCAA rules. You can't just let student/athlete remain in university/college (or whatever SMU calls it these days) to retain eligibility-they have to progress toward an actual major

I never said offer that to athletes only. Just like Sports Management is open to everyone. Offer the General Studies to everyone.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:34 pm
by Stallion
yeah its just that easy-maybe we can expand the School of Education as I've mentioned before with the new building but its an expensive proposition that I'm sure will run into the millions of dollars. Your talking about expanding the curiculum for maybe 10-15 athletes plus multiples of more non-athletes for a school with a tuition for $50,000 a year for a General Studies degree which aren't looked upon with favor. We've already poured over 100 Million I bet in adding the College of Education

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:34 pm
by stc9
I can hardly imagine how the conversation would have gone with my old man, when I told him I selected my major. "Dad, I'm going to major in Leisure Studies". I do know for sure that my college career would have ended on the spot.

Re: Baylor Leisure Studies Major!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:24 pm
by Rebel10
Stallion wrote:yeah its just that easy-maybe we can expand the School of Education as I've mentioned before with the new building but its an expensive proposition that I'm sure will run into the millions of dollars. Your talking about expanding the curiculum for maybe 10-15 athletes plus multiples of more non-athletes for a school with a tuition for $50,000 a year for a General Studies degree which aren't looked upon with favor. We've already poured over 100 Million I bet in adding the College of Education


Auburn's Public Administration major has a lot more than 10 or 15 athletes. As I have said that if we stay G5 we are okay with what we have to win 6 to 8 games. But if we go to P5 thing will need to change. Adding one of theses types of majors would help.