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Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:58 pm
by Statler
Discuss

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:09 pm
by Fresno Mustang
Since baseball was pretty much the only sport the entire country followed during the early 20th century the Black Sox scandal was my vote. Imagine 8 players being banned for life from a major 4 sport today, that is crazy.

I would also include the Pete Rose scandal and the recent FIFA charges because the whole world pretty much cares about what FIFA does

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:13 pm
by leopold
Blacksox.

That could have killed MLB.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:31 pm
by Statler
Fresno Mustang wrote:Since baseball was pretty much the only sport the entire country followed during the early 20th century the Black Sox scandal was my vote. Imagine 8 players being banned for life from a major 4 sport today, that is crazy.

I would also include the Pete Rose scandal and the recent FIFA charges because the whole world pretty much cares about what FIFA does


I thought about including the FIFA scandal but that has not necessarily been proven with tangible results (yes I know the UNC has not been "proven").

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:49 pm
by peruna81
The current Baylor mess has so many emerging parts that it may top even the PSU horror...LEO questions, possible involvement in coverup of crimes, whispers of intimidation of alleged victims, and the mystery of the McLennan County DA's reluctance to dig deeper on outstanding cases all are still out there, and will only keep this alive longer. Baylor desperately wants something else to draw the current scrutiny off of them. They have wisely "shut up" and written in severance packages the need to keep silent (thus Briles' "statement") and let their attorneys do the talking...smart for Baylor, but another hit on them from a PR standpoint for appearing to play the next round of CYA.

The quiet exodus of students and athletes at Baylor so far just got a bit more volume...

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:52 pm
by ponyte
Left out the Tulane point shaving (1985) and Arizona State, Northwestern point shaving scandals. Probably should just lump them together in the NCAA's mens basketball point shaving tradition.

How about Derrick Rose affair at Memphis. He gets accepted and plays a season and Memphis goes to the NCAA finals in basketball and the whole time someone else took his ACT and he never attended a class.

What about Minnesota's academic fraud in the mid 1990s involving Mens basketball?

Gotta love the Georgia academic fraud in the early 2000s. The Men's BB coach had his son, SON, teach classes and give players that never attended class As. Now that is ingenuity.

One could throw in Woody Hayes hitting an opponent's player during a game.

Can one seriously leave out the Reggie Bush/vacated Heisman Trophy fiasco? He had to give back his Heisman!

So many possibilities.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:31 am
by mrydel
Then there was the night I snuck Betty Lou into my dorm room. She was a good sport in a scandalous type of way.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:59 am
by ponyte
mrydel wrote:Then there was the night I snuck Betty Lou into my dorm room. She was a good sport in a scandalous type of way.


I remember you telling me about that. If I remember right, you were proud of 'the pitch' you made that night.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:15 am
by Digetydog
peruna81 wrote:The current Baylor mess has so many emerging parts that it may top even the PSU horror...LEO questions, possible involvement in coverup of crimes, whispers of intimidation of alleged victims, and the mystery of the McLennan County DA's reluctance to dig deeper on outstanding cases all are still out there, and will only keep this alive longer. Baylor desperately wants something else to draw the current scrutiny off of them. They have wisely "shut up" and written in severance packages the need to keep silent (thus Briles' "statement") and let their attorneys do the talking...smart for Baylor, but another hit on them from a PR standpoint for appearing to play the next round of CYA.

The quiet exodus of students and athletes at Baylor so far just got a bit more volume...


In the new Baylor scandal, the reaction of the Baylor fans is simply an abomination. They simply do not care what Briles did or did not do to contribute to/cause/coverup the problems there.
- Despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, they seem to think Tevin Elliott and Sam Ukwuachu were somehow set up by women looking to ???
- They think that it was OK for Devon Chafin to bruise his girlfriend and that she is looking to score money.
- Nobody seems concerned that they pulled the scholarship of Ukwuachu's victim. Nobody seems concerned that the judge essentially mocked their "investigation" into her rape allegations.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:17 am
by Digetydog
ponyte wrote:Can one seriously leave out the Reggie Bush/vacated Heisman Trophy fiasco? He had to give back his Heisman!

So many possibilities.


OJ killed two people and kept his Heisman.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:46 am
by ericdickerson4life
Digetydog wrote:In the new Baylor scandal, the reaction of the Baylor fans is simply an abomination. They simply do not care what Briles did or did not do to contribute to/cause/coverup the problems there.
- Despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, they seem to think Tevin Elliott and Sam Ukwuachu were somehow set up by women looking to ???
- They think that it was OK for Devon Chafin to bruise his girlfriend and that she is looking to score money.
- Nobody seems concerned that they pulled the scholarship of Ukwuachu's victim. Nobody seems concerned that the judge essentially mocked their "investigation" into her rape allegations.


My wife, sorry to say, is a Baylor grad. When this first surfaced last year from the Texas Monthly article she and I were appalled. I couldn't believe any school would pull the scholarship of a player that went through this (for if my memory is correct poor performance). It was embarrassing to see how she was treated at Baylor, and made even worse when the conviction came down. Long story short, my wife went onto FB and stated how disappointed she was at her school and how if our daughter was old enough to attend we would (as best we could) refuse to support her going to Baylor. Her Baylor friends were astonished and ridiculed her. The scary part is they are all still making the same excuses you wrote about in regards to the firings and allegations that are coming out:

- "it's the girls fault "they were asking for it"
- "this is a conspiracy by (UT, A&M, etc.) to bring down Baylor football"
- "this is what it takes if you want to compete for a NC"
- "this happens everywhere and is no big deal"

The list goes on and on and is pretty sickening. Especially when this goes beyond just football and reaches all female students on campus.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:01 pm
by EastStang
Even a school as "enlightened" as Stanford seems to try and trivialize these crimes.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:14 pm
by smitty329
No one mentioned that scandal at a Texas school where they paid a Head Football Coach $2 Million to sit around and pout for a year when he didn't get the job he wanted at another school.

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:00 pm
by mrydel
Digetydog wrote:
ponyte wrote:Can one seriously leave out the Reggie Bush/vacated Heisman Trophy fiasco? He had to give back his Heisman!

So many possibilities.


OJ killed two people and kept his Heisman.

Didn't it get taken in the civil ruling?

Re: Poll - Greatest Sports Scandal

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:01 pm
by mrydel
ponyte wrote:
mrydel wrote:Then there was the night I snuck Betty Lou into my dorm room. She was a good sport in a scandalous type of way.


I remember you telling me about that. If I remember right, you were proud of 'the pitch' you made that night.

I told you to stop that until you move back to Little Rock.