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a bunch of Michigan football issued Nike/Jordan shoes have shown up at a reseller. Michigan is investigating. Just pointing out-because North Carolina just issued staggered game suspensions for something like 13 players due to similar investigation

9 North Carolina players received four-game suspensions for the secondary NCAA violations. Two players will sit two games and two others will be sidelined for one contest.


http://www.toledoblade.com/Michigan/201 ... 0180811123

Eric Cartman said it best. Student athletes...so that’s what you call your slaves?

What happens if Timmy spends his meal money on gamestop instead of mcdonalds? Is that an ncaa investigation too?

We will take anything we can get, but UNC self-reported in February, news came out in July, and suspensions announced last week.

Our game and Western Michigan are the obvious choices on their schedule to enforce suspensions, but I doubt anything moves by then... the compliance office at Michigan is just now starting to investigate.

mtrout wrote:Eric Cartman said it best. Student athletes...so that’s what you call your slaves?

What happens if Timmy spends his meal money on gamestop instead of mcdonalds? Is that an ncaa investigation too?

A quarter million dollar education with no payback $90,000 worth of food - travel Hotel insurance-" well I wouldn't exactly call that being a Slave

Plus the ability to improve and showcase their skills, like an unpaid intern.

Right Johnny Manziel ain't [deleted] without the SEC/A&M platform that he "used" to showcase his skills. Compare to baseball players who don't have that kind of national showcase and have to work their way through the minors. Johnny Manziel's marketing value was about a hundred times more valuable than the same type of baseball talent who has no national profile when arriving in the majors

travel to Hawaii, Venice, Verona, the Bahamas, Puerto Rico is a nice bonus too. Seriously the days when athletes are being used is pretty much done with cost-of-living stipend/housing allotment. -they have it a helluva a lot better than many Americans-many students who graduate with mountains of debt. Its better than joining the military to get an education.The last thing they need to do is just let them go pro whenever the hell they want-who cares. Then the hostage argument is gone forever. We're getting there with the option to return to school if not drafted. Hell let them return to school even if they are drafted and don't like their team. That's the NFL, NBA's problem. It happens in Baseball

If the NFL started a minor league program that ran in the spring for 19-21 year olds, it would solve the problem for everyone. It would clean up college recruiting and it would turn college football back into what it should be. It would also eliminate the need for high schools to fake grades. And, of course, it would provide an avenue for kids who need the money and want to be a professional athlete to provide for their families earlier.

JasonB wrote:If the NFL started a minor league program that ran in the spring for 19-21 year olds, it would solve the problem for everyone. It would clean up college recruiting and it would turn college football back into what it should be. It would also eliminate the need for high schools to fake grades. And, of course, it would provide an avenue for kids who need the money and want to be a professional athlete to provide for their families earlier.

But why invest in a system that would not be nearly as profitable as college football has been? I've been advocating this change for years as a way of cleaning up the college game but no way the NFL is going to take on a developmental system when they have one at no charge. Only question is how many guys are slipping through the cracks because they aren't cut out for the classroom.

Charleston Pony wrote:

JasonB wrote:If the NFL started a minor league program that ran in the spring for 19-21 year olds, it would solve the problem for everyone. It would clean up college recruiting and it would turn college football back into what it should be. It would also eliminate the need for high schools to fake grades. And, of course, it would provide an avenue for kids who need the money and want to be a professional athlete to provide for their families earlier.

But why invest in a system that would not be nearly as profitable as college football has been? I've been advocating this change for years as a way of cleaning up the college game but no way the NFL is going to take on a developmental system when they have one at no charge. Only question is how many guys are slipping through the cracks because they aren't cut out for the classroom.

Because they can play in the spring and make a ton of money.

Spring football has been attempted and failed. Especially risky with a minor league product

CFL is in week 10 right now. Are they raking in the cash and ratings?

I guess we'll find out with the XFL coming back in Feb 2020.

How about the free market solution? Call me crazy

If the NFL set up the league, kids would be drafted out of HS by NFL teams and then each team in the league would be associated with an NFL team. Kind of like a minor league system. If you think that a spring football league with the Dallas Cowboys II wouldn't make money, you are crazy. They wouldn't sell out the Death Star, but they would need to expand The Star in Frisco. Or they would play games in SA and take that market. Between high-end prospects and grade casualties, you would easily be able to fill out teams that would essentially be HS all-star teams. You would only need to pay players 50-100K per season. You would end up getting MLS sized crowds with a smaller payroll and better TV ratings.

I guarantee you that the attendance and TV ratings would be higher than what SMU gets during the college football season. And it would solve the football participation crisis that the NFL is about to go through with concussions.

How many people show up for minor league baseball? What's minor league baseball's TV ratings? How much do those guys make? Here's a hint, not counting their signing bonus, much less than $50k yet alone $100k. Same can be said for the DLeauge or whatever it's called now. Everyone think it will translate over, it won't. College football has a built in fan base called alumni and college students. Take away that affiliation and interest would plummet. But if someone wants to make a go of it, please by all means do. I'm a free market guy. But the exposure college football players get on Saturday's in fall is greater than any minor league system could ever provide, and that will be tough to overcome.

Assuming your salary assumption is correct in a new minor league, college football is far more rewarding for the vast majority of the players that could finally go into the NFL, not to mention all those that never will.