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Maryland
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:14 pm
by Lefty
If DJ Durkin isn't fired, how many players transfer?
And do they have any Texans who might want to come home?
Re: Maryland
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:57 pm
by PoconoPony
Re: Maryland
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:41 pm
by No Quarter
Maryland is undoubtedly more worried about Floridians (9) or Georgians (6) transferring out than Texans (2) if the current roster seen on - line is up to date and my counting accurate. The Terps squad runs heavily to players from MD high schools and good number from NC.
I don't think the article reached by the first link is as specific as the is one:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/11/us/unive ... index.html
Re: Maryland
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:40 am
by DallasDiehard
Both Texans are seniors
Re: Maryland
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:57 pm
by PoconoPony
Huge mistake by MD to leave the ACC for the Big 10. Program has been a disaster with roughly $150 in debt brought on by the last AD building new facilities and the state legislature refusing to bail them out. Huge pressure to get up to speed in the Big 10 and specifically football to be competitive. At the same time MD never had the commitment to overly invest in football with a budget several years back right at $ 8 mil per year when OSU was spending $34 mil, Michigan $ 26 mil, MSU $ 22 mil. Now a huge potential set back in reputation, recruiting and possible replacement of a coaching staff. Further, their recruiting is basically MD, some VA and North Carolina with a few in-roads in FL. Hence, recruiting an area with limited talent numbers with VA, VA Tech, North Carolina, NCS, Temple, Penn State, Pitt and WV among others looking for kids in the same area. Not a great situation if you are a Terp fan.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:03 pm
by mtrout
PoconoPony wrote:http://www.espn.com/espn/print?id=24343021
Hope this prints out.
That is awful. Time to clean house.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:57 am
by Mexmustang
So this was just a conditioning practice? Was the HC even present? Why stop at the HC, fire the AD, the President, and the Board.
Obviouly, someone is responsible, but the trainers were obviously not qualified. Was that due to a limited athletic budget....playing on the cheap? Then they are all responsible aren't they?
When someone tragically dies we.look for a scapegoat, but we don't know if it was an oversight by the doctors giving out annual physicals or what. Let's not rush to judgement.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:14 am
by Dukie
Mexmustang wrote:So this was just a conditioning practice? Was the HC even present? Why stop at the HC, fire the AD, the President, and the Board.
Obviouly, someone is responsible, but the trainers were obviously not qualified. Was that due to a limited athletic budget....playing on the cheap? Then they are all responsible aren't they?
When someone tragically dies we.look for a scapegoat, but we don't know if it was an oversight by the doctors giving out annual physicals or what. Let's not rush to judgement.
This same staff was forcing players they wanted to lose weight to force down candy bars while watching teammates work out. Medical staff clearly were not on top of things, nor were risk/compliance folks. Would've been a good place for Froling to transfer to, though.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:16 am
by mtrout
No way the HC was present. Head trainer and head strength coach were present.
Making offensive linemen 110y sprints in May (or anytime for that matter) is stupid.
Playing on cheap? It seems like the more you pay these guys the dumber they get. I bet they would have had better and safer results with a staff of grad students and interns.
You can't have kids die in meaningless workouts and not expect heads to roll.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:01 pm
by Mexmustang
My point was simply its early in the investigation to blame everyone. My comment relating to being on the cheap, was simply a continuum on the previous point that Maryland's budget has gone into facilities perhaps not qualified trainers. Let's see what the findings are before we destroy more lives than just the unfortunate victim.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:24 pm
by White Helmet
University admitting legal responsibility already. They must really being trying to get ahead of something.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... dan-mcnair
Re: Maryland
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:25 pm
by mtrout
The kid died almost 3 months ago and they're just now firing the strength coach...and blaming the training staff. No one does S until it's reported on publicly with great fervor.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:59 am
by SMU Pom Mom
I just saw more details about this and OMG what a toxic culture. Absolutely revolting behavior from adults that we as parents entrust our children to. I am outraged.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:34 pm
by PoconoPony
President and AD are real stand-up people. No spin, no excuses, no finger pointing while accepting full responsibility. Refreshing to see leadership deal with matters straight on and go to the heart of the matter. This direct approach will set the tone and save them countless amounts of criticism, negative publicity and legal expenses. I only wish more people would learn the lesson of telling the truth first and letting the chips fall where they may.
Re: Maryland
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:32 pm
by mtrout
Bro the president got on the podium 2+ months late and blamed the trainers. He’s so full of it it’s not even funny.