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Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:48 am
by Lefty
Anyone else confused by the early rotation? We know about Velton Gardner's eye before the first game and Camar Wheaton's ankle before Lamar. Everyone seems impressed with VG and TJ McDaniel -- did TJ even play against TCU?

Siggers is fine, and if they want to start him because he's a senior, OK. But I want to see more Wheaton, and someone please dust off Brandon Epton. He showed a little bit last year, and it would be nice to see him worked in the rotation.

Of course, that means a rotation of (in no particular order) Siggers, Wheaton, Gardner, Lavine, McDaniel, Epton (and maybe one day Montaye Dawson?) in an offense that rarely has more than one in the game at a time. Pretty crowded back there.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:08 pm
by SMULaxer
I have no idea how they're going to keep all of these backs out of the portal

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:35 pm
by JasonB
RL said before the game he was going to shortenthe rotation, and he did - two main backs and then he snuck Wheaton some carries. The best two on any given practice week will be the top two to go. All the analytics point to VG as a better back, but Siggers is a much better blocker and also catches the ball better out of the backfield. I think it will end up as VG + CW, but I don't know how long it will take to get there.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:33 am
by SoCal_Pony
SMULaxer wrote:I have no idea how they're going to keep all of these backs out of the portal


lol, if those are your 7 backs, you are putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage IF your goal is to compete & win Championships.

Let’s recruit better & work the Portal using NIL $$$.

We have to upgrade this position.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:34 am
by BUS
Have you seen wheaton tweets. He can leave anytime if that is really him posting.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:48 pm
by PNW_Stang
What about Camars tweets?

Epton seems like he will always be a 1.7 YPC type back. Maybe in the future he improves. Siggers isn’t as good as McDaniel IMO, but maybe he’s the better blocker/pass catcher.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:14 pm
by smubrooks
I refuse to get twitter. What do his tweets say?

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:52 pm
by SoCal_Pony
I don’t think Camar has tweeted in months, at least not on his Camar Wheaton account

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:45 pm
by mtrout
Camar hasn't looked good to me from what I've seen. That being said, I don't feel like they've given him much of a chance. Running him up the middle with nowhere to run, taking him out after 1 drop, etc. Seems weird to me. Let the horses run coach.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:56 pm
by ojaipony
I think we should go "old school" some. Line up Lavine as a fullback and then have TJ or Camar or Siggers run straight up the gut behind him. Heck, even go wish bone, fake handoff off tackle to Gardner (or TJ or Camar) and run it up the gut with Siggers with Lavine leading. Regardless, I'd like to see more straight dive plays. We've seen some success there. When we go out wide it's a [Deleted] show mostly.

And nothing is more demoralizing to a team if you can get 3-4 yards whenever you want going straight up the gut.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:40 pm
by crispy_taco
RUN THE DAMN BALL

I agree with yall. Need to see more plays with lead blockers such as lavine. Mordecai’s play will improve when the receivers are actually able to get open as well. What I would like more than anything for SMU to do is recruit big mfs. Dominating the trenches is what would set us apart from our current G5 competition. It would also give us the ability to consistently beat P5 teams

It’s hard to get those guys at our level but if I could wish for one thing it would be that we have a huge salary based NIL collective like Texas has for linemen

“Pancake Factory” NIL collective at texas. I know we already have substantial collectives but I would really like a targeted approach to big men.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... -charities

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:13 pm
by orguy
crispy_taco wrote:RUN THE DAMN BALL

I agree with yall. Need to see more plays with lead blockers such as lavine. Mordecai’s play will improve when the receivers are actually able to get open as well. What I would like more than anything for SMU to do is recruit big mfs. Dominating the trenches is what would set us apart from our current G5 competition. It would also give us the ability to consistently beat P5 teams

It’s hard to get those guys at our level but if I could wish for one thing it would be that we have a huge salary based NIL collective like Texas has for linemen

“Pancake Factory” NIL collective at texas. I know we already have substantial collectives but I would really like a targeted approach to big men.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... -charities


Given our OL woes it's no wonder guys like Camar are struggling. Yes, hard to get
4/5 star line talent at little ole SMU. Unlikely to change. Sadly. Hope I am wrong.
Perhaps NIL will change the things.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:09 pm
by Smumba2009
The O line makes or breaks the backs... I agree we need to focus our recruiting efforts here. I great line can make a good backfield uber productive and protect the QB. A bad line can make a legendary backfield a pile of dog poo and cause the QB all kinds of issues.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:53 am
by PerunaPunch
crispy_taco wrote:Dominating the trenches is what would set us apart from our current G5 competition. It would also give us the ability to consistently beat P5 teams

This^^

That was the first thing that jumped out at me when our D lined up against TCU. We have the skill guys to run with most, but we need to build or buy P3 (not a typo) size on both lines to become what we want to be.

Re: Running back rotation

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:23 am
by Charleston Pony
Did we get a glimpse of the future last night with Preston at QB and Camar his RB in mop up duty? Looked like Wheaton may have taken a shot to the ribs and was hurting on the sideline. Hope he doesn't become an injury prone "could have been" guy