PonyFans.com

And more news to come soon...

https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/stat ... gr%5Etweet

goof news. sounds promising, now to get the docs signed. then perhaps some expansion news.

Step one, done...

Patience and prayer...

"Sources tell me the GOR was done before the Pac-12 Meetings. It will include performance/merit based revenue sharing.

As of now, there is no deal to sign, which makes the above irrelevant.

There are multiple reporters that knew about this. Nobody reported it because of that."

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/ ... 01952?s=20

So a GOR if they can get a suitable deal. TBD on that. If they had it they'd be shouting it IMO.

According to The Athletic the Pac-12 schools agree to equal sharing of media-rights revenue along with performance-based distribution of the CFP revenue as part of a new GOR deal. That will please the Utah and Oregon ADs.

Without the Grant of Rights, you can't have a TV deal. So, this is the first step which had to be done, to get to the TV deal which is probably waiting in the wings.

WordUpBU wrote:"Sources tell me the GOR was done before the Pac-12 Meetings. It will include performance/merit based revenue sharing.

As of now, there is no deal to sign, which makes the above irrelevant.

There are multiple reporters that knew about this. Nobody reported it because of that."

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/ ... 01952?s=20

So a GOR if they can get a suitable deal. TBD on that. If they had it they'd be shouting it IMO.

If it is irrelevant then why did they bother to enter into it? It could be irrelevant in the future, but until the PAC breaks up, if it ever does, it is quite relevant.

Topper wrote:

WordUpBU wrote:"Sources tell me the GOR was done before the Pac-12 Meetings. It will include performance/merit based revenue sharing.

As of now, there is no deal to sign, which makes the above irrelevant.

There are multiple reporters that knew about this. Nobody reported it because of that."

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/ ... 01952?s=20

So a GOR if they can get a suitable deal. TBD on that. If they had it they'd be shouting it IMO.

If it is irrelevant then why did they bother to enter into it? It could be irrelevant in the future, but until the PAC breaks up, if it ever does, it is quite relevant.

No, it’s not signed. He meant drafting and oral agreement are complete.

Canzano says everything. He has said so much and so little has actually happened. Dude is an honorary bot at this point.

mtrout wrote:Canzano says everything. He has said so much and so little has actually happened. Dude is an honorary bot at this point.

Canzano's credibility as anything other than what Oregon State or Wazzu wants put out there is highly suspect at this point.

The meat of the story (a verbal agreement on GOR terms & revenue sharing arrangements) was technically accurate.

The timing and spin was 100% blowing a nothing burger into PR. This has been done for weeks according to Arizona 247 reporter Jason Scheer and national CFB writer Ross Dellenger. This also doesn't mean anything until they have a TV deal to grant rights to . It doesn't say one iota about the TV deal that's the lynchpin to keeping schools committed and whether it makes sense to go to 12 if they do.

This isn't some bombshell so why was it presented as such? Because particular schools wanted it done that way.

WordUpBU wrote:

mtrout wrote:Canzano says everything. He has said so much and so little has actually happened. Dude is an honorary bot at this point.

Canzano's credibility as anything other than what Oregon State or Wazzu wants put out there is highly suspect at this point.

The meat of the story (a verbal agreement on GOR terms & revenue sharing arrangements) was technically accurate.

The timing and spin was 100% blowing a nothing burger into PR. This has been done for weeks according to Arizona 247 reporter Jason Scheer and national CFB writer Ross Dellenger. This also doesn't mean anything until they have a TV deal to grant rights to . It doesn't say one iota about the TV deal that's the lynchpin to keeping schools committed and whether it makes sense to go to 12 if they do.

This isn't some bombshell so why was it presented as such? Because particular schools wanted it done that way.

No one claimed it was a bombshell. It was soberly and accurately reported as exactly what it is.

I realize that you’re sane and reasonable for a Big XII-aligned person, but it’s beyond rich for anyone on that side of the fence to complain about anyone blowing nothingburgers into PR.

Dukie wrote:

WordUpBU wrote:

mtrout wrote:Canzano says everything. He has said so much and so little has actually happened. Dude is an honorary bot at this point.

Canzano's credibility as anything other than what Oregon State or Wazzu wants put out there is highly suspect at this point.

The meat of the story (a verbal agreement on GOR terms & revenue sharing arrangements) was technically accurate.

The timing and spin was 100% blowing a nothing burger into PR. This has been done for weeks according to Arizona 247 reporter Jason Scheer and national CFB writer Ross Dellenger. This also doesn't mean anything until they have a TV deal to grant rights to . It doesn't say one iota about the TV deal that's the lynchpin to keeping schools committed and whether it makes sense to go to 12 if they do.

This isn't some bombshell so why was it presented as such? Because particular schools wanted it done that way.

No one claimed it was a bombshell. It was soberly and accurately reported as exactly what it is.

I realize that you’re sane and reasonable for a Big XII-aligned person, but it’s beyond rich for anyone on that side of the fence to complain about anyone blowing nothingburgers into PR.

Excluding the Swaim's, MHVer3's, Dude of WV, etc twitter trolls that Big 12 fans who've been around for more than a week disregard, which Big 12 media reporters are you referring to?

WordUpBU wrote:

Dukie wrote:

WordUpBU wrote:Canzano's credibility as anything other than what Oregon State or Wazzu wants put out there is highly suspect at this point.

The meat of the story (a verbal agreement on GOR terms & revenue sharing arrangements) was technically accurate.

The timing and spin was 100% blowing a nothing burger into PR. This has been done for weeks according to Arizona 247 reporter Jason Scheer and national CFB writer Ross Dellenger. This also doesn't mean anything until they have a TV deal to grant rights to . It doesn't say one iota about the TV deal that's the lynchpin to keeping schools committed and whether it makes sense to go to 12 if they do.

This isn't some bombshell so why was it presented as such? Because particular schools wanted it done that way.

No one claimed it was a bombshell. It was soberly and accurately reported as exactly what it is.

I realize that you’re sane and reasonable for a Big XII-aligned person, but it’s beyond rich for anyone on that side of the fence to complain about anyone blowing nothingburgers into PR.

Excluding the Swaim's, MHVer3's, Dude of WV, etc twitter trolls that Big 12 fans who've been around for more than a week disregard, which Big 12 media reporters are you referring to?

I see that you're already familiar with and defensive about large swathes of the Big 12 disinformation campaign, but I'm not as willing as you to just dismiss, e.g., Swaim. He gets picked up by Sports Illustrated, among others. And as I'm sure you are aware, he is a master of reporting things like "[Colorado] and [Arizona] will move to the Big 12" (emphasis added) without evidence or support.

Moving on from him, though, I'd say the two worst homers/offenders are Kansas-based Dennis Dodd and Okie State grad Brett McMurphy. Dodd because he actually thinks its credible to document his sourcing as "several sources speculating in the hallways," and McMurphy because he breathlessly announces that UDub and UO have been "vetted and cleared" to join the B1G (guaranteeing the headline focus there) while also admitting that he does not know "when, or if," the B1G will expand further. His added comment that the B1G doesn't want blood on its hands for blowing up the PAC 12 is also nonsensical; you can't take UCLA and USC and then fret about whether taking the next two is, what, impolite? LOL.

There are plenty more examples but that's enough of my time on this, and that's not even getting into the Big 12 disinformation campaign with Karen Brodkin. But the really important thing here is that we're talking about this because you accused Canzano of falsely pretending the oral agreement in the PAC around a new GOR as a "bombshell." He didn't.

Edward R. Murrow is missed...

The BigXII campaign whether speculative or more sinister is predatory vis-a-vis the PAC-12. ACC did it to the Big East, SEC did it to the BigXII, and the BiG10 did it to the PAC-12.

Further actions by either or both the BigXII and BiG10 will have the effect of actually killing off a P5 Conference. How is that good for College Football?