If UNT beats SMU, then SMU loses recruits and it's embarassing. If SMU wins, so what.
If SMU plays UNT, the attendance isn't very good anyway. It doesn't evoke any real local interest to speak of.
It's a NO WIN situation for SMU.[/quote]
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In 1977, we beat SMU before approx. 30,000 in Texas Stadium (can you imagine that?) and then almost immediately after your Mean Green loss yall went on to sign the best recruits in your school's history. But as for today, you know, this century/millineum; darn it, would yall quit out-recruting us because we can't seem to get anywhere with all the scraps yall are leaving behind!
NOTE: SMU and UNT have not played a football game in 12 years! Another 12 years of that and UNT may just have to drop football!
ATTENDANCE? Baghdad Bob strikes again because of the revisionism going on here to make UNT look like a non-draw when you know your WAC East rivals could not touch what an SMU/UNT game would bring in at the turnstiles.
You have obviously not been to most of the SMU/UNT games I've been since 1974 to see all the attendances that you with your giant swath of a paint brush have deemed "ALL" to be very low turnstile numbers. Well, I've been to all of them beginning with the 1'st one in the modern era of NCAA football and that one was in 1974 at Texas Stadium. For some particular reason when the modern era of NCAA football began, ie, the 1950's, SMU would not play North Texas after we integrated with Abner Haynes in the 50's and during the 1960's with the Mean Joe Greene/Cedric Hardman/Ron Shanklin/Steve Ramsey, Leonard Dunlap, Chuck Beatty and Glenn Holloway era. All those players from UNT were drafted in the NFL for what its worth.
The smallest crowd was at Ownby in 1992 and was probably the only time in SMU history they announced an accurate home game attendance number. Amazing how a small crowd for a UNT game at SMU will be accurately announced, isn't it? Think about that, SMU'ers and how petty some of this has gotten with some of your people.
Yet the attendance numbers for that game was not as low as some of you would have liked it to be so you can use "ONE" game to say all of them were just as low when you know that is hardly the case. History and a trip to the Dallas Morning News sports archives looking at some past boxscores will show different with all the other attendance numbers for SMU/UNT football games in the modern era.
Actually, all those other turnstile numbers for a UNT/SMU football game ranged anywhere from 22-23,000 to over 50,000 and for all your old timers who don't have "the green problem" they would tell you the same thing.
I have a video of the entire 1990 SMU/UNT "televised live" game and the visuals on it do not lie yet show an over-flow crowd of close to 23,000 (before Fouts was expanded) and that a game when 2-3,000 UNT students were turned away because of the Denton Fire Marshall regulations. Did you hear me on that? 2-3,000 turned away from an SMU/UNT football game? 2-3,000 is more than any of your WAC East schools (soon to be CUSA West schools) will ever bring to your Ford Stadium for a conference game.
TCU has all but publicly announced that they are going to be just fine without you as a league mate after close to 100 years of your 2 schools being together. So I guess one might assume UNT will be just fine without SMU, too, if we were to be blocked from CUSA membership (which is what we feel has already been taken care of by your offficials, BTW). BUT...no "smoke filled" room sleathing around to lobby for a blackballing of UNT from CUSA is not going to stop our school's momentum. You ever try to put out a prairie fire with a wind blowing 20 MPH?
<>*<> Those who work overtime trying to keep others down many times find they are the ones who will be on the downward swing looking up.
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:05 pm
