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US News rankings have gotten less nuts and bolts and more into other things.

Today "rankings" seem to be more on what's in vs what's out.

Anything that ranks UNC and their fake degrees higher than SMU has to be regarded as a joke.

Nobody is going to confuse SMU with Stanford or Georgia Tech, but it's shocking that any credible list would have us that low. Maybe it's right about Louisville being last -- I don't know. I've never thought of Louisville, Clemson, N.C. State (except for the vet school, which is elite), Pitt or especially Florida State as being in the same academic stratosphere as SMU.

A friend who is a (non-ACC) college professor agrees, saying SMU's reputation in academic circles is "solid" and that he "almost can't believe Louisville and FSU are accredited universities."

US news is the standard. Like it or not. It is how we are perceived nationally.

Lefty wrote:Nobody is going to confuse SMU with Stanford or Georgia Tech, but it's shocking that any credible list would have us that low. Maybe it's right about Louisville being last -- I don't know. I've never thought of Louisville, Clemson, N.C. State (except for the vet school, which is elite), Pitt or especially Florida State as being in the same academic stratosphere as SMU.

A friend who is a (non-ACC) college professor agrees, saying SMU's reputation in academic circles is "solid" and that he "almost can't believe Louisville and FSU are accredited universities."

My biggest surprise about that list is that Pitt, which always has been AAU, is so low. Pitt, like UNC and UVA and Cal, is one of the 8 originally designated Public Ivys.

FSU entering the ACC was at least as lowly ranked as Louisville now is. But FSU used all the many ACC ties to start a major climb in academic reputation. Louisville is starting the same path. As KY is poorer than FL and as the state of KY refused to fund Louisville any better than it did Morehead St or WKU until the late 1990s, it will take Louisville longer to move up.

NCSU and VT are both on the cusp of being invited into AAU. Clemson should be fairy close as well.

orguy wrote:US news is the standard. Like it or not. It is how we are perceived nationally.

US News is the standard but it’s a shame how they have let political agendas change its criteria. For instance, “increasing the weight of a schools' success in graduating students from different backgrounds, and eliminating factors like alumni giving, class size and high school standing.” this is all a move that jeopardizes private schools like SMU, Tulane, etc. Unless you’re a top 20 academic school with a top 15 endowment that can just give free tuition to anyone of any background or a big public school with large classes that can afford to bring people of every background in droves, this will benefit only the very elite private universities with the highest endowments and public universities. To US News, It doesn’t matter if a student learns in a classroom of 25 or 30 vs 300. It doesn’t matter if the kids coming in are coming from top elite high schools, as that signals “elitism” in today’s world.

Political and woke agenda accomplished.