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Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

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Smumba2009 wrote:Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

Just win boys....just win

That’s highly misleading as the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champions. So it is indeed great those “experts” are saying we’ll win the ACC; but they’re not saying they’d have us ranked fourth if the conference championship itself didn’t put us that high. (There’s no guarantee the top 4 conference champions are from the P4, by the way; if SMU and Miami each drop another game before the championship—meaning nobody in the ACC has fewer than two losses overall—then Boise could win out and claim the 4 seed.

Dukie wrote:

Smumba2009 wrote:Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

Just win boys....just win

That’s highly misleading as the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champions. So it is indeed great those “experts” are saying we’ll win the ACC; but they’re not saying they’d have us ranked fourth if the conference championship itself didn’t put us that high. (There’s no guarantee the top 4 conference champions are from the P4, by the way; if SMU and Miami each drop another game before the championship—meaning nobody in the ACC has fewer than two losses overall—then Boise could win out and claim the 4 seed.

Misleading? It's the system we're operating within isn't it?

P.S. Boise... They are over rated across the board with one stat, Jeanty's rushing yards, that keeps them afloat. A solid rush defense and they'd lose game after game.

Dukie wrote:

Smumba2009 wrote:Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

Just win boys....just win

That’s highly misleading as the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champions. So it is indeed great those “experts” are saying we’ll win the ACC; but they’re not saying they’d have us ranked fourth if the conference championship itself didn’t put us that high. (There’s no guarantee the top 4 conference champions are from the P4, by the way; if SMU and Miami each drop another game before the championship—meaning nobody in the ACC has fewer than two losses overall—then Boise could win out and claim the 4 seed.

Isn’t it seeding versus ranking? We may have a worse rank but get a 4 seed as the ACC champ.

Got to win out first then wait to get screwed as they always do to us.


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Smumba2009 wrote:

Dukie wrote:

Smumba2009 wrote:Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

Just win boys....just win

That’s highly misleading as the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champions. So it is indeed great those “experts” are saying we’ll win the ACC; but they’re not saying they’d have us ranked fourth if the conference championship itself didn’t put us that high. (There’s no guarantee the top 4 conference champions are from the P4, by the way; if SMU and Miami each drop another game before the championship—meaning nobody in the ACC has fewer than two losses overall—then Boise could win out and claim the 4 seed.

Misleading? It's the system we're operating within isn't it?

Misleading, yes; the thread title says we’re projected “#4;” I’m only telling you that zero of these people would rank SMU fourth right now. Seeding, sure—but it does not mean they think SMU is a top-four team in the way people think of rankings.

Great point on seed vs rank. Well noted... Will adjust my click bait approach.

I think the only way SMU gets into CFP is to win the next 4 games. At this point, I don't see any way the committee invites 2 ACC schools into the CFP. Miami beats SMU, SMU will be left out (plenty of 3-loss SEC and B10 teams that will get consideration over a 2-loss ACC).

Smumba2009 wrote:Great point on seed vs rank. Well noted... Will adjust my click bait approach.

No worries at all, it’s just that, as mustang1992 points out, SMU is likely either ACC champion and #4, or outside looking in.

This team has already exceeded my expectations for this season so I will just enjoy every game as the season plays out

Treadway21 wrote:

Dukie wrote:

Smumba2009 wrote:Bill Conley and a couple of other credible folks now have us slotted at #4

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ns-week-11

Just win boys....just win

That’s highly misleading as the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champions. So it is indeed great those “experts” are saying we’ll win the ACC; but they’re not saying they’d have us ranked fourth if the conference championship itself didn’t put us that high. (There’s no guarantee the top 4 conference champions are from the P4, by the way; if SMU and Miami each drop another game before the championship—meaning nobody in the ACC has fewer than two losses overall—then Boise could win out and claim the 4 seed.

Isn’t it seeding versus ranking? We may have a worse rank but get a 4 seed as the ACC champ.

Got to win out first then wait to get screwed as they always do to us.


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This is not correct. There are 4 bye positions that go to the top 4 ranked conference champions. Those 4 spots come from the P4 schools and the top ranked G5 conference champ. That means 4 places to be taken from 5 conferences. As an example, today the top 4 bye teams would be SEC/Big 10/Big 12/ and MWC with Boise being ranked 12 above our 13.

I am pretty sure that if we win out we will jump Boise, but it is not an automatic ACC spot.


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247 projecting SMU VS Ohio state in Quarterfinals
https://247sports.com/longformarticle/c ... 1/#2536738

mrydel wrote:

Treadway21 wrote:Isn’t it seeding versus ranking? We may have a worse rank but get a 4 seed as the ACC champ.

Got to win out first then wait to get screwed as they always do to us.


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This is not correct. There are 4 bye positions that go to the top 4 ranked conference champions. Those 4 spots come from the P4 schools and the top ranked G5 conference champ. That means 4 places to be taken from 5 conferences. As an example, today the top 4 bye teams would be SEC/Big 10/Big 12/ and MWC with Boise being ranked 12 above our 13.

I am pretty sure that if we win out we will jump Boise, but it is not an automatic ACC spot.


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You’re correct, Mark: 5 conference champions are in; but only the top-rated 4 are guaranteed the 1-4 seeds.