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This is about to get even more interesting

PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:00 pm
by leopold
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... s-athletes

So now you have to pay female athletes the equivalent of the male athletes. I'm curious to hear how this is going to work with freshman QBs who haven't arrived to campus yet making millions.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:48 pm
by EastStang
How many hours does that regulation last after 1/20.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:00 am
by Nedward
The soon to be previous administration held little regard for Title IX rights in the first place. All about Trans this and that. I'm not trying be offensive but facts are facts.

Yeah...equal NIL money from that department who just did the above for years. As earlier poster said, we'll see in a few days. I know somebody who knows somebody that rational people are taking over.

But I'm dealing with the same people who believe the WNBA players should be paid equally to NBA. I stopped arguing with crazy decades ago. Apologies in advance for all offended.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:35 am
by peruna81
This whole scenario is at the heart of the NIL dilemma...are athletes STRICTLY employees of the university, or independent contractors FOR the university's profit, along with their own profit. Since this is still being argued out (think Northwestern players a few years ago), there's going to be a lot of pushing as folks try to get their place at the $$$ trough

Expect a new salvo of what will eventually be viewed as case law on the horizon...soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:56 am
by highlander
It's my understanding that the university does not pay the NIL money -- that comes from people like us. The only "pay" the athletes get from the university is the scholarship, which is meted out equally.

Genuinely asking: where am I wrong?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:49 am
by PlanoStang
I thought that NIL means Name Image Likeness. A company contracts with the athlete for the use of the athlete's NIL. Independant from the athlete's school.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:21 pm
by EastStang
Olivia Dunne has balanced out the whole NIL budget for LSU.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:17 pm
by mtrout
So basically pay every athlete 100k?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:18 pm
by mtrout
EastStang wrote:Olivia Dunne has balanced out the whole NIL budget for LSU.

She actually competed in a meet this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:37 am
by Webmaster
This became an issue because members of the Power5 conferences recently settled some lawsuits by agreeing to backpay NIL to some former "student"-athletes, and starting in 2025 to pay current "student"-athletes directly up to $20.5M per school per year.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ay-players

So that money is what the Department of Education guidance says must be divided equally under Title IX.

What to me is less clear is what happens to NIL from collectives. Will that still be allowed and since those are contracts between the collective and the individual "student"-athlete, would that fall under the Dept of Education guidance.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:27 pm
by malonish
Nedward wrote:The soon to be previous administration held little regard for Title IX rights in the first place. All about Trans this and that. I'm not trying be offensive but facts are facts.

Yeah...equal NIL money from that department who just did the above for years. As earlier poster said, we'll see in a few days. I know somebody who knows somebody that rational people are taking over.

But I'm dealing with the same people who believe the WNBA players should be paid equally to NBA. I stopped arguing with crazy decades ago. Apologies in advance for all offended.


Since we're doing this on the football forum now, the opposition actually made a bigger deal about it to distract folks from how few potential solutions they have to real problems. Strawmen are the perfect distraction :D
(not that I believe any group has all the answers)

Re: This is about to get even more interesting

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:56 am
by EastStang
NIL is the wild west, but its so complicated on so many levels. You have someone like Livvy Dunne who is a college athlete and model. In the past she couldn't be a model and a college athlete. Now she can and is cleaning up. Remember when we had a football player who was a concert pianist and couldn't be paid for playing with the Dallas Symphony? Then you have Big U college quarterback who will take a pay cut to go to the NFL which is unsustainable and you have the wide open transfer portal which makes everyone a free agent every year and that works both ways. Colleges can cut a player who is a bust and players can shop for the best deal. In the past if you wanted to transfer, great, you had to sit out a year or play FCS for a year. The new rules stop the stockpiling of players by the Alabamas and Georgias of the world because if they see their names low on the depth chart, they can start for a school like us and get paid for switching. I think the key to some sanity is to figure out how to manage the transfer portal. Money is there and prestige is on the line and cheating has been going on forever when it comes to pay to play.