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New model awards top seeds and first-round byes to top four in Selection Committee's rankings, regardless of whether they are conference champions.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ht-seeding

So I guess the conference championship games are going to become meaningless and teams that have already secured a spot will sit them out?

If the model were this way last year, we would have sat out the Clemson game for sure.

highlander wrote:So I guess the conference championship games are going to become meaningless and teams that have already secured a spot will sit them out?

Yes, and Clemson-Miami would have become a play-in game to secure the ACC championship spot (and something like the 11th seed). It's not the worst system actually. It's just very dumb and will be full of unintended consequences.

highlander wrote:So I guess the conference championship games are going to become meaningless and teams that have already secured a spot will sit them out?

That might get you in trouble with your conference. Probable contract obligations?

If this had been in place last year, we would have been the #10 team going up against Tenn. But that assumes we would have even played in the ACC championship game, thus moving to #10 by losing a road game on a walk-off 56-yd FG. We were #8 going in, and so we might have sat out that game and then we might have hosted #9 Indiana.

Duke board says the ACC rules require good-faith participation in any conference championship for which a team or individual qualifies. What the penalty is, I don't know, but it does seem that the conference would have required SMU to play in Charlotte last year.

I assume this means that an ACC or Big 12 team can run the table, including the conference championship game, and the top four seeds still will be from the SEC and Big 10

If we had beaten BYU we probably would have been in the Top 5. Probably not better than ND, GA, OSU or PSU. They would not have put the Whorns below us either. But a 5-8 seed would have meant a home game. Of course the ACC wanted two teams in the playoff for the $$$, so no flags were thrown against the Tigers. A straight up game, and we would have won by two touchdowns.

EastStang wrote:If we had beaten BYU we probably would have been in the Top 5. Probably not better than ND, GA, OSU or PSU. They would not have put the Whorns below us either. But a 5-8 seed would have meant a home game. Of course the ACC wanted two teams in the playoff for the $$$, so no flags were thrown against the Tigers. A straight up game, and we would have won by two touchdowns.

Look, I wanted SMU to win about as much as anyone, but the refs did not steal that game from the Ponies. Errors in the first half were the story, and coverage on the last return. Do you not remember the blatant facemask during our defensive pursuit of Klubnik that forced the last Klempson punt? The one that had more than half the stadium booing? We got away with a big one. But the main thing is, no, it wasn't the refs.

Dukie wrote:

EastStang wrote:If we had beaten BYU we probably would have been in the Top 5. Probably not better than ND, GA, OSU or PSU. They would not have put the Whorns below us either. But a 5-8 seed would have meant a home game. Of course the ACC wanted two teams in the playoff for the $$$, so no flags were thrown against the Tigers. A straight up game, and we would have won by two touchdowns.

Look, I wanted SMU to win about as much as anyone, but the refs did not steal that game from the Ponies. Errors in the first half were the story, and coverage on the last return. Do you not remember the blatant facemask during our defensive pursuit of Klubnik that forced the last Klempson punt? The one that had more than half the stadium booing? We got away with a big one. But the main thing is, no, it wasn't the refs.

The first Klempson TD where there was clear ineligible player downfield really stands out. That really put us on our heels. There was also a really bad roughing the passer that kept one of Klempson's TD drives alive. But it was not totally lopsided. We should have been flagged for a facemask in the 4th quarter -- that was a big no-call. On balance, Klempson got more zebra-aid than we did.

We were SOOO bad in the first half -- particularly KJ in the first quarter. I chalk it up to being on such a big stage for the first time. I hope we (esp. KJ) gained some valuable experience that will help us when we go out to Death Valley this coming season, and on subsequent big stages.