Phil Bennett sends 60+ players to NFL in last 7 years

[PonyTime]

Players on Bennett Coached teams drafted in the NFL in last 7 years. Half of these are Defensive players - so I would guess that he had a significant hand in their development. . .

Kansas State:
1999 3 80 Gramatica, Martin K Tampa Bay
1999 6 198 Kelly, Jeff MLB Atlanta
1999 7 223 Young, Ryan T N.Y. Jets
1999 7 227 Bishop, Michael QB New England
1999 7 238 Swift, Justin TE Denver
1999 7 240 McDonald, Darnell WR Tampa Bay
2000 2 33 Howard, Darren DE New Orleans
2000 3 67 Simoneau, Mark MLB Atlanta
2000 3 83 McIntosh, Damion T San Diego
2000 5 146 Chapman, Lamar CB Cleveland
2000 6 170 Murphy, Frank WR Chicago
2001 2 33 Morgan, Quincy WR Cleveland
2001 3 90 Meier, Shad TE Tennessee
2001 4 107 Beisel, Monty DE Kansas City
2001 5 133 Fatafehi, Mario DT Arizona
2001 5 143 Cooper, Jarrod SS Carolina
2001 5 145 Butler, Jerametrius CB St. Louis
2002 Cartwright, Rock RB 5-8 237 7 257 Washington
2002 ***gins, Demarcus CB 5-10 178 6 173 Houston
2002 Hartwig, Justin G 6-4 300 6 187 Tennessee
2002 Leber, Ben OLB 6-3 244 3 71 San Diego
2002 Lockett, Aaron WR 5-7 155 7 254 Tampa Bay
2002 McGraw, Jon FS 6-3 208 2 57 N.Y. Jets
2002 Scobey, Josh RB 5-11 218 6 185 Arizona

OU

1998 2 48 Alexander, Stephen TE Washington
1998 5 124 Chase, Martin DT Baltimore
1998 5 152 Smith, Travian OLB Oakland
1998 6 164 Williams, Sammy T Baltimore
1999 2 60 Fazande, Jermaine RB San Diego
1999 5 159 Parker, De'Mond RB Green Bay
1999 6 173 Gregg, Kelly DT Cincinnati
2000 1 20 McDougle, Stockar G Detroit
2000 2 54 Bartee, William CB Kansas City
2001 3 72 Marshall, Torrance MLB Green Bay
2001 6 177 Heupel, Josh QB Miami

TCU
1997 4 112 Tucker, Ryan T St. Louis
1998 6 167 Tucker, Jason WR Cincinnati
1998 7 212 McCarty, Chance DE Tampa Bay
2001 1 5 Tomlinson, LaDainian RB San Diego
2001 2 46 Schobel, Aaron DE Buffalo
2001 4 108 Layne, George RB Kansas City
2001 4 127 Fuller, Curtis SS Seattle
2001 4 130 Worthen, Shawn NT Minnesota
2001 4 131 James, Cedric WR Minnesota

A&M
1996 1 17 Brown, Reggie LB Detroit
1996 2 32 McElroy, Leeland RB Arizona
1996 3 62 Mickens, Ray CB N.Y. Jets
1996 3 65 Smith, Detron FB Denver
1996 4 97 Goodwin, Hunter TE Minnesota
1996 6 201 Clay, Hayward TE St. Louis
1997 2 59 Mitchell, Brandon DT New England
1997 4 115 Connell, Albert WR Washington
1997 6 180 Collins, Calvin C Atlanta
1997 6 198 Jasper, Edward DT Philadelphia
1998 3 89 Ruhman, Chris T San Francisco
1998 4 93 McKinney, Steve G Indianapolis
1999 3 66 Tucker, Rex G Chicago
1999 3 68 Coady, Richard FS St. Louis
1999 3 79 Campbell, Dan TE N.Y. Giants
1999 3 85 Nguyen, Dat MLB Dallas
1999 4 106 Holdman, Warrick OLB Chicago
1999 5 145 Spikes, Cameron G St. Louis

[StangEsq]

I like the way you're thinking.

I heard he was especially instrumental in Martin Gramatica's success...

[Dooby]

<I><<Pounds desk laughing!>></I>

[whatasteve]

Rock Cartwright is my hero.

[Paul]

What a dumb post...Bennett wasn't around most of those players for more than 1 year, and the vast majority weren't even players he would have coached...

Kansas State...you list 24 players, when in reality, he can only take credit for 11, and several of them were already NFL prospects before he arrived, but I'll give them to you anyway.

OU...you list 11 players. He was there for 1 YEAR, hardly long enough to take credit. Plus, you included players from 2 years after he left. He also was the coach for DB's, so you can only really include them. That leaves 1 player, and he was coached by someone else before finally going to the NFL.

TCU...you list 9 players. Chance McCarty is the only player than can possibly be contributed to him. Including the 2001 players is a complete joke. Gary Patterson and Fran get the credit for them...nice try.

A&M...you list 18 players. He was only there for 2 year. You can't give him credit for players that were coached by someone else for several years. Only 4 players can really be given to him, even being lenient.

Thats 17 players that Bennett can take any credit for getting drafted into the NFL, and some of those are still a stretch. I'm sure Bennett is a great coach, but please...don't try to say that he's responsible for 60 or more players being Drafted since 1996.

[Horseshoe]

By my count, 17 is still more than 3. And he helped a lot more than 17 of those.

And, for the record, I interviewed Roy Williams when he was a HS senior in California. He told me that one of the main reasons he signed with Oklahoma was because Coach Bennett believed in him and in his abilities and his future, and because he believed Coach Bennett was the man he wanted to play for. Williams encountered some nay-sayers in his early years at OU - Coach Bennett endorsed him all the way. I'd say Williams turned out OK. I'd also say Coach Bennett knows a thing or two about spotting talent.

[StangEsq]

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Dear TCU fan,

The first post in this thread was in response to this post: <A HREF="http://128.121.195.33/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000888.html" TARGET=_blank>http://128.121.195.33/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000888.html</A>

Before you make a new account and spend three hours doing research, check a bit of the history of previous comments to see if there's any sarcasm involved.

[PonyTime]

StangEsq

You are absolutely correct in your assesment of my post.

If Brian Urlacker (sp) of New Mexico is a Gary Patterson Boy, I am going to attribute all of the above 60+ NFL players to Coach Bennett.

I have no idea of his involvement in their development - but I probably pretty accurate in saying that he worked with most of these guys at some point (in recruiting, training, gameday prep, etc.

[SoCal_Pony]

Pony Time,

That was a hilarious post. TCU fan didn’t get it. SMU fans did.

[Paul]

Patterson coached Urlacher before he went into the draft. The 17 players I included met the same criteria. I never said Bennett wasn't a good coach, and its obvious that he's had a big impact on a lot of players. I was just pointing out that claiming 60 players going into the NFL was ridiculous. I'll also say that Patterson had little to do with Tomlinson making it to the NFL, which was claimed by the post you were responding to. He didn't recruit Tomlinson (neither did Fran), but if anyone should receive credit, its Fran and Mike Schultz (TCU's current OC and the RB coach at the time).