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Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby George S. Patton » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:07 am

At this point, we're third behind Houston and Tulsa, although not everyone in this class has not been rated.

Since I'm still trying to ramp up here, I didn't see anything where this was discussed. Anyway, I haven't seen us ranked that high before, grade inflation or no grade inflation.

http://minnesota.rivals.com/TeamRank.as ... e=0&Conf=5
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby HFvictory » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:02 pm

Big gaps between UH and Tulsa and between Tulsa & the rest of the pack. Tulane 17 commits and 9 unrated and only 1 3 star? Just getting their players evaluated will cause their total to jump significantlty but really not a strong group overall.
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby StallionsModelT » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:02 am

Is SMU is able to land Daryl Fields (RB from Oklahoma) , Barry Browning (Safety from Everman) and very likely Pat Faulk (ATH from Kerens) that will probably give us double digit 3 star recruits. Also, I think it is very possible for Kaiser to end up a four star guy.

FWIW, I think Ricky Collins is going to be the gem of this class. We were very lucky to get in on him early. He will be the Darius Johnson of the 2010 class.
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby Mexmustang » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:45 am

This makes no sense.
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby Mexmustang » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:46 am

"HFvictory"]Big gaps between UH and Tulsa and between Tulsa & the rest of the pack."

I don't agree, if UCF and SMU simply run off their non-3 stars, they then both outrank Tulsa. The statistical method is simply flawed. A school can have more ranked players, but if the entire class is larger, then their avg. rating maybe diluted; they fall in the rankings, makes no sense.
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby SMU 86 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:52 am

Mexmustang wrote:"HFvictory"]Big gaps between UH and Tulsa and between Tulsa & the rest of the pack."

I don't agree, if UCF and SMU simply run off their non-3 stars, they then both outrank Tulsa. The statistical method is simply flawed. A school can have more ranked players, but if the entire class is larger, then their avg. rating maybe diluted; they fall in the rankings, makes no sense.



Our class is not all rated yet as HF said. That could close the gap. Here is the way it is figured as I was told. Hope this helps.

The position rankings are key in the Rival's formula. Rice got the #5 kicker so their "N" in the formula below was 18 (versus 0 for SMU since none of the SMU commits who were position ranked were ranked high enough to generate any "N" points). So basically because Rice got a "top" kicker, their rivals points were multiplied by a bigger factor.

Here is the team ranking formula for those interested... (please keep in mind a statistician from UC-Berkeley developed this for us).

Please note you only take the top 20 prospects in this formula, ordered by # Stars descending.

POINTS = ((N / (N + 50)) * H) + ((50 / (N + 50)) * L)

where...

H = 250 for each 5-star commit + 140 for each 4-star + 75 for each 3-star + 20 for each 2-star + 10 for each 1-star

L = 18 for each 5-star + 12 for each 4-star + 8 for each 3-star + 3 for each 2-star + 1 for each 1-star

N = a big honkin' calculation, described below

CALCULATION OF N:
10 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 1-10
9 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 11-20
etc. down to...
1 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 91-100

10 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 1-10
9 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 11-20
etc. down to...
6 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 41-50

24 for each commit ranked #1 on his official position ranking
18 for each commit ranked #2-5 on his official position ranking
8 for each commit ranked 6-X on his official position ranking, where X is dependent on detail position, as listed below...

--Dual-threat QB: 25
--Pro-style QB: 25
--Running Back: 35
--All-Purpose Back: 15
--Fullback: 15
--Wide Receiver: 50
--Tight End: 20
--Offensive Tackle: 40
--Offensive Guard: 30
--Offensive Center: 10
--Defensive Tackle: 50
--Weakside Defensive End: 20
--Strongside Defensive End: 30
--Inside Linebacker: 35
--Outside Linebacker: 35
--Cornerback: 40
--Safety: 30
--Athlete: 25
--Kicker: (no points awarded for rank lower than 5th)

If the team's average stars are greater than 3, add (100 * (Avg stars -
> 3)) to N.
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Re: Rivals ranks SMU third in CUSA recruiting

Postby westexSMU » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:31 pm

Scout also has SMU #51 on the 2010 recruiting list. Though we are not Top 25 yet, we are having one of our best recruiting class ratings since the DP. We are waaaay ahead of the recent classes of a few years ago when we were ranked #107 by Rivals...
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