UH Gets 5 Division 1A Tranfers(updated)

[HorsePower]

I don't think anybody has made that assumption, merely admitting that sometimes that is the case. Maybe those guys transferred to UH because because they're all Houston-area natives and got homesick? Or because they weren't getting playing time elsewhere and thought UH would be a great place to play? Or they look at Art Briles and think "There's a coaching genius who I have to play for?" The fact is that a lot -- but certainly not all -- transfers do stem from some sort of academic issues. There are lots of guys who sign with one school and then transfer to one with less stringent academic standards. That doesn't mean those players are stupid, just that they weren't getting it done at their previous school (academically). The first to bring it up was "Ikus" and even he said quite clearly that he doesn't know whether or not academics played a role in any of these players transferring. He just acknowledged that it was a possibility. Considering none of us knows the academic standing of any of these players, it has to be considered. If, instead, you prefer to latch on to this as your newest "Sky Is Falling" mantra, have at it. I guess it comes down to the fact that I'm also proud that our guys go to class, and I want them to graduate -- not just play -- with a degree that means something. That's part of why SMU is a special place.

[lugus830]

Stallion, I am sick and tired of your BS! I live for the day when SMU is again a winning program and you will have to keep your trap shut. It is much easier to continually hammer in the doomsday message, then try to be a part of a growing number of people with the desire to pull up the program instead of hold it down. You are part of the problem not the solution. Every time that the program takes a step forward, you are there to let EVERYONE know that you are the wise old man that can see that we actually took at step backward. What is worse is that you act as though your accusations are fact when they are just the opinion of a very bitter individual. You can label me all you want, but I will continue to support the program and continue to speak about the positives occurring on the hilltop. You are one of the individuals that make others outside SMU believe that we will never be a winning program again. I am sure as a response you will tell rely on the win percentages since the DP to attempt to prove me wrong, but the fact remains that you don't know how next year will turn out any more than I. I prefer to believe that we are headed upwards and, again, I can't wait until we become a winning program and I don't have to listen to your whiny crap anymore.

[Stallion]

Loyal Mustang Since September 2005. Once you have posted long enough to get past "Recruit" status on Ponyfans I might give a [deleted] about what you think. So I suggest you continue to insult until you reach the necessary number of posts. Its a lot more fun to write several paragraphs insulting Stallion rather than intelligently argue a point about SMU athletics-you know with a theme and supporting facts.

[lugus830]

Only on ponyfans which means nothing. What does my membership to this board have anything to do with validity of my statement? It should say something that I am already sick and tired of your rhetoric since I have only been following this board since last year. If your post count gives you an inflated sense of superiority, than you are more irrational that I thought.

[Pony Fan]

Only on ponyfans which means nothing. What does my membership to this board have anything to do with validity of my statement? It should say something that I am already sick and tired of your rhetoric since I have only been following this board since last year. If your post count gives you an inflated sense of superiority, than you are more irrational that I thought.

Come on man, don't you know that stallion is the authority on most everything to do with SMU athletics and how screwed up it is.

[WorldStang]

Like I've said before..

He's the old sour grapes guy that walked to school up-hill both ways..

Great source of information on recruits, but he still can't get over the whole Kenneth Pye days and how we all settle for "mediocrity."

Always easier to cast stones from the outside looking in.. but not willing to step up and offer solutions or help before tearing down any effort by someone else.

Oh yeah.. and the first one to tell you "I told you so.. "

[PK]

well I see that all of you have jumped to the conclusion that all Division 1A transfers are academic casualties which is simply not a fact. Nice! go off on a tangent so you really don't have to deal with the issue.

You are a real piece of work. You are awfully quick to jump to your conclusion relative to what you think everyone else's conclusion is and then berate them for it. The fact is that your apparent conclusion that all D-1 transfers are studs is no more accurate than anyone else's conclusions one way or the other because none us, including you, knows why any of these guys transfer. You always want back up facts when someone disagrees with you...well where are your FACTS? Go find another tree to bark up to prove how sh!ty SMU's athletic program is.

[EastStang]

I will again ask the question which has yet to be answered for sure. Why did Mouton leave? So, far I've seen lots of speculation like for instance academics. Does anyone really know why he left?

[MUSTANGFOREVER69]

I don't know why Mouton "dropped out of SMU", though there were unsubstantiated rumors on this board that he wasn't attending his classes - the same reason that Marcus Moseley was kicked off of the team several years ago and dropped out of SMU. In any event, Mouton enrolled as a Freshman at Dodge City CC and played the entire 2005 Football Season at Dodge City CC as a Freshman DT. He then left Dodge City CC and enrolled at U of H as a second semester Freshman transfer from Dodge City CC (assuming he has enough transferable hours to qualify as a second semester Freshman at U of H. http://www.kjccc.org/football/05/05rosters/dodge.html

The true "facts" are that Mouton is not a Division 1-A tranfer to U of H from SMU. Once again, Stallion, you failed to check out your "facts" before you pronounced them as being true, and then have proceeded to carry on your unassailable diatribe based upon "facts" which are not, in fact, fact.

[Stallion]

that's a nice theory on your part except I never used the word TRUE Division 1A Transfer and in fact posted the other day BEFORE you that he trasferred from Dodge City Kansas. Nice try.

[Roach]

"I know more than you!"
"No, I know more than you!"
Who cares who posted first?

[MUSTANGFOREVER69]

Stallion, you're so full of it. YOU chose the Subject Title for this Thread and YOU initiated the Thread with your initial post by throwing down the gauntlet at everyone reading and posting on this board and effectively declaring us all to be morons in light of our lack of knowledge (which you obviously possess) regarding the practice of schools other than SMU accepting/recruiting Division 1-A transfers - and YOU referred to each of the people you mentioned, including Mouton, as a Division 1-A transfer. If you'll note from the link I posted, Mouton was a Freshman this past football season at Dodge City CC. His transfer from there to U of H has absolutely no connection to SMU. I'll be happy to bet you that he has zero credit hours from SMU on his transcript. He's neither a "TRUE Division 1-A transfer" nor your undefined/"unverified" version of whatever you're referring to in this thread as a Division 1-A transfer.

[PK]

You will have to excuse Stallion...he is getting up there in age and has occassional memory lapses...when it suits his needs.

[Charleston Pony]

I think everyone gets the underlying message here...or at least I hope they do. If SMU really wants to be competitive, the school needs to relax it's standards on acceptng transfer credits. We need to be a viable option for any kid who wants to transfer and let the coaches evaluate whether they can help the program and are worthy of a scholarship

Everyone gets uptight about Stallion's constant theme...but it's really quite simple, folks. If/when SMU decides it REALLY wants to compete as best we can given our lot in life (referring to non-BCS), all we have to do is look to the west at our "sister" school to see what needs to be done.

[Mickey]

Everyone gets uptight about Stallion's constant theme...but it's really quite simple, folks. If/when SMU decides it REALLY wants to compete as best we can given our lot in life (referring to non-BCS), all we have to do is look to the west at our "sister" school to see what needs to be done.

Amen! Correctomundo!