Rivals Isn't the Only One That Sometimes Misses

[jtstang]

I should add that at this point, we are talking about transfers and not HS recruits. The HS recruits we aren't getting is primarily because we are not getting them as opposed to not getting them into school.

I wonder if that is because most HS recruits worth haveing want to go to a school who has the occasional opportunity to play in the post season, like Rice.

[PhirePhilBennett]

I'm sure you're right about Dilliard but Bennett had to be referring to something. My complaint is you offer a lot of conclusions on these issues-which is fine you may access to that information but let me tell you I follow the academic records of these recruits as close as one can without access to admission records and I just don't see it.There is a reason TCU, UTEP, Tulsa and UH get these Division 1A Transfers and JUCOs in and SMU gets walk-on Division 1A transfers who really weren't even average prospects anyway. If its true then Bennett is doing a lot worse job at recruiting than I thought and ought to be held to a much higher standard-no more comparison to Gregg, Rossley and Cavan who really were hamstrung.

I might add that you can follow as closely as you can, but that isn't very close. You are only going off of the information that recruits themselves provide.

About the transfer issue, all I have ever said was there was a major change at the end of last year. Which is true. I can prove it. It is a documented fact; the only question is how much is it going to change things. Regardless, it doesn't affect the past, obviously. It really only affects this year going forward and hopefully we will see some results on December 18th. Hopefully there will be some junior college announcements soon.

I should add that at this point, we are talking about transfers and not HS recruits. The HS recruits we aren't getting is primarily because we are not getting them as opposed to not getting them into school.

the problem with JuCo's is that they pan out in far fewer numbers than redshirted 'projects'...

Randal Goode was the Top DB in that Kansas league, he was benched in favor of a RS Fresh this year, wasn't he?

Did our Top JuCo LB play much?

TCU's vaulted Navarro JuCo DL/DE's of 2 years ago haven't made much of an impact...

And I believe that Franchione's crop of the VERY BEST JuCo DB's in the Nation didn't fix him 2 years ago, or this year for that matter.

It's hit or miss...

I do hope we get a DB or two, an interior DL or two, if available a DE (not as necessary), of course an OL or two if available, and of course, some LBs.

Our OL may be better next year with mitch emright and lobo coming of age, our WRs should be better if Givens continues to improve.

Givens is a much better athlete than Bobby Chase...

[Stallion]

Goode is from Texas and was only considered a "top" player by the Sports Information Department-the Cheerleader's Bible. You right though SMU isn't going to get anywhere with second tier JUCOs Phil got in the last few years with the exception of Haywood. That's my point SMU in the past I can say with conviction has only been able to admit a small slice of the Top JUCO talent.

[72mustang]

High School -- 2004 graduate of Sam Houston High in San Antonio... Three-year letterman and starter for coach Russell Tatum... Two-time all-District 28-4A selection at wide receiver, adding all-area honors as a senior... Academic all-state selection in '03... Also competed for the Hurricanes in basketball and track... Helped Sam Houston to the Class 4A state basketball tournament in '03, and competed in the regional track meet in '03 in both hurdles events... Ranked first in his class academically throughout his high school career... Member of the National Honor Society and served as a class officer.

Personal -- Full Name: Jarett Jama Porter Dillard... Born: Dec. 21, 1985, at San Antonio... Parents: Porter and Robin Dillard, San Antonio (one brother, one sister)... Rice Major: economics... College: Baker.

[RedRiverPony]

Goode is from Texas and was only considered a "top" player by the Sports Information Department-the Cheerleader's Bible. You right though SMU isn't going to get anywhere with second tier JUCOs Phil got in the last few years with the exception of Haywood. That's my point SMU in the past I can say with conviction has only been able to admit a small slice of the Top JUCO talent.

Get off the high horse with the "cheerleader's bible" crap. It is the JOB of every sports information office to make that school's athletes sound as good as they can, and that applies to all sports. It's not like they're making up the information they're producing -- they're getting it from players, coaches, etc. There's no reason to clench up your cheeks and accuse the athletic department of writing any fiction stories here.

With the exception of Haywood? You want to give away Bobby Chase? How about Jerad Romo? Neither do I.

[MustangIcon]

Goode is from Texas and was only considered a "top" player by the Sports Information Department-the Cheerleader's Bible. You right though SMU isn't going to get anywhere with second tier JUCOs Phil got in the last few years with the exception of Haywood. That's my point SMU in the past I can say with conviction has only been able to admit a small slice of the Top JUCO talent.

Get off the high horse with the "cheerleader's bible" crap. It is the JOB of every sports information office to make that school's athletes sound as good as they can, and that applies to all sports. It's not like they're making up the information they're producing -- they're getting it from players, coaches, etc. There's no reason to clench up your cheeks and accuse the athletic department of writing any fiction stories here.

With the exception of Haywood? You want to give away Bobby Chase? How about Jerad Romo? Neither do I.

Romo was a marginal D1a QB. He did his best he could but he simply didn't have the talent/ability of a good starting d1a QB.

[Big10Ponyfan]

Goode is from Texas and was only considered a "top" player by the Sports Information Department-the Cheerleader's Bible. You right though SMU isn't going to get anywhere with second tier JUCOs Phil got in the last few years with the exception of Haywood. That's my point SMU in the past I can say with conviction has only been able to admit a small slice of the Top JUCO talent.

A lot of hot air blowing from the tollway these days.

[PhirePhilBennett]

Goode is from Texas and was only considered a "top" player by the Sports Information Department-the Cheerleader's Bible. You right though SMU isn't going to get anywhere with second tier JUCOs Phil got in the last few years with the exception of Haywood. That's my point SMU in the past I can say with conviction has only been able to admit a small slice of the Top JUCO talent.

Get off the high horse with the "cheerleader's bible" crap. It is the JOB of every sports information office to make that school's athletes sound as good as they can, and that applies to all sports. It's not like they're making up the information they're producing -- they're getting it from players, coaches, etc. There's no reason to clench up your cheeks and accuse the athletic department of writing any fiction stories here.

With the exception of Haywood? You want to give away Bobby Chase? How about Jerad Romo? Neither do I.

Romo was a marginal D1a QB. He did his best he could but he simply didn't have the talent/ability of a good starting d1a QB.

Bobby Chase was an overachiever, and I think that the benefit to the team was his work ethic much more than his athletic ability...did we see him get blazing wide open EVER this season? No. Most of the time last year when it happened were on busted plays...save the tremendous UAB catch.

I'd take lots of Bobby Chases all day long...but in the end of the day, you need an Emmanuel Sanders to win against better teams week in and week out.

[Stallion]

I said the last few years-really meant to say the last 2 years. I think Bobby Chase was an excellent prospect that SMU found-but he wasn't exactly highly recruited. Romo was marginal-he performed marginally on a mediocre team in the last 3/4th of his Senior year-finished at the bottom on CUSA passing stats. Dime a dozen. I remember pointing out last year that in SMU's offense there was no excuse for a QB to only be completing 55% of his passes. That's well below average in this kind of offense with its short passing game. Check it out if you don't believe me. Willis in that respect has shown what an upgrade can mean in that aspect alone. Really though these guys are more college players who went to JUCO rather than JUCOs who went to college. They are examples of the small slice of the JUCO pie we have-at least in the past gone after and signed.

[PerunaPunch]

did we see him get blazing wide open EVER this season? No.

Ummm, that would be yes. Actually, it happened quite a bit in fact.

I guess you either didn't go to the games or you don't have a good seat. I sit within 5' of the phone the receivers use to call up to their coach right behind the SMU bench.

If you were sitting where I sat, you would have heard the crowd yelling at J Willis that Bobby Chase was WIDE FREAKIN' OPEN.

IMHO Willis' biggest developmental hurdle is locking onto one receiver (Sanders) when he starts scrambling.

You're wrong about Chase being an overachiever. He doesn't have game-breaking breakaway speed, but then again neither does Sanders. In fact, I'd be so bold as to suggest that Chase is every bit as good of a possession receiver as Sanders is, except for Chase isn't Willis' best friend and therefore wasn't fed the ball on every freakin' play.

[Stallion]

The Patrick Resby JUCO Safety I mentioned above would be an interesting test case to follow to see if SMU offered-committed to Kansas this weekend-no confirmation that the offer from SMU which he expected ever came through.