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by Caballo » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:38 am
PerunaPunch wrote:I'm a staunch Bennett supporter, and I make no bones about it. I think we've mined the I-45 corridor from Conroe to Houston and east/west along I-10 (Houston to Beaumont) as well as anywhere else.
Here's some facts for you Bennett supporter, there are approximately 10 players on last year's roster from the Conroe to Houston, and Houston to Beaumont corridors. Approximately three of these contributed in some way. Patrick Handy, Bryce Hudman and Rey Pellerin.
Look at the stats, Handy played in 12 games and took part in 11 tackles, Hudman (22 tackles), and Pellerin 30 catches for 196 yards.
The other 7 players combined for 1 tackle (Jamar Bey). Jay'Mond Cleveland had no stats. No stats for Jackson Taylor (TE). Dustin Morton was a Senior offensive lineman who did not play. Russ McCary (P) and Pace Doherty (QB) were high school freshmen and did not play.
If that is your idea of "Mining" the talent in the GREATER HOUSTON METROPOLITAN area, then you are either ignorant, or smoking crack. I hope it is the latter.
Your comment about putting recruiting on the "Back Burner" has already been exposed for what it is. On second thought, you may fit the former description listed above, rather than the latter.
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by EastStang » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:01 am
Wasn't Sturdivant an All-State player out of Georgia and pretty highly recruited. On the other hand, he was an SMU legacy. One that we should get 100% of the time.
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by PerunaPunch » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:39 am
Caballo wrote:PerunaPunch wrote:I'm a staunch Bennett supporter, and I make no bones about it. I think we've mined the I-45 corridor from Conroe to Houston and east/west along I-10 (Houston to Beaumont) as well as anywhere else.
Here's some facts for you Bennett supporter, there are approximately 10 players on last year's roster from the Conroe to Houston, and Houston to Beaumont corridors. Approximately three of these contributed in some way. Patrick Handy, Bryce Hudman and Rey Pellerin. Look at the stats, Handy played in 12 games and took part in 11 tackles, Hudman (22 tackles), and Pellerin 30 catches for 196 yards. The other 7 players combined for 1 tackle (Jamar Bey). Jay'Mond Cleveland had no stats. No stats for Jackson Taylor (TE). Dustin Morton was a Senior offensive lineman who did not play. Russ McCary (P) and Pace Doherty (QB) were high school freshmen and did not play. If that is your idea of "Mining" the talent in the GREATER HOUSTON METROPOLITAN area, then you are either ignorant, or smoking crack. I hope it is the latter. Your comment about putting recruiting on the "Back Burner" has already been exposed for what it is. On second thought, you may fit the former description listed above, rather than the latter.
Caballo,
I don't need to take any crap off some newbie like you. Earn yourself a little credibility before you start talking smack. I've been posting honestly and reliably on this forum for over 6 years.
First off, just looking at the roster to see how we recruit in Houston is called a Logic Error -- to figure out how we RECRUIT in Houston you have to look at SCHOLARSHIPS not just the Roster. But even so, 10 players on last years roster is probably a representative sample, meaning that you would expect to get a concentration of players from D/FW and a distribution of players roughly correlating to some formula of distance from the university and population concentration. I don't think we have a "pipeline" for players in Houston, but that's not my point. I merely stated that we recruited Houston as well as anyplace else.
Jay'Mond Cleveland is one of our better receivers. He posted no stats this year because he was injured (hamstring). He was just cleared for light running 3-4 weeks ago. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't post.
Blog,
I was there for Bennett's shaving analogy too. If you're as well connected as you let on, you'd know that the entire coaching staff was basically sequestered from the end of the Houston game until the final gun of the Rice game (and then they were all on airplanes). I was given a highlights tape by top QB prospect who wanted to come to SMU. I was told by a coach to send it on, but that they couldn't get to it, nor would they call the recruit until after the Rice game. Their focus was, exclusively, on beating Tulsa and Rice and going to a bowl.
The only other option I can think of is the possibility that 11/11 - 11/25 was a recruiting dead period -- I don't know.
My supposition (meaning uncertain belief) is -- and this is not a lie, but merely my opinion, clearly stated as no more than that, and I don't think I need to have to attach footnotes or references to the end of my posts, as I said in my former post "I think" and "IMHO (in my humble opinion)" -- that Bennett gambled that beating Rice and going to a bowl would fuel the recruiting process.
In the business world we make gambles like that every day. For example, I just signed off on a relatively large advertising contract that will either 1) pay off or 2) eat up my pay check for the next 6 months. I think it'll pay off.
But it's just SMU's luck that these things (you name it) never seem to work out. Again, IMHO.
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by PonyPride » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:49 am
Jackson Taylor took over as the deep snapper last year as a true freshman, and kept that job this year, as well. That's very tough for a true freshman to do, and he did an exceptional job. He now shares duties with Sam Bennett.
Jay'Mond Cleveland missed the entire year with a badly injured hamstring. Dustin Morton became a valuable and versatile backup who played guard several times for SMU this year, as well as on special teams.
"Russ McCary (P) and Pace Doherty (QB) were high school freshmen and did not play." To the best of my knowledge, SMU has never had high school freshmen on its roster.
Don't forget LaMarque (38 miles from Houston), which puts Wilton McCray on the list, and Tomball (34 miles), which adds Reggie Carrington.
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by PerunaPunch » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:55 am
All hail PonyPride, the walking encyclopedia of Mustang trivia.
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by ponyboy » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:58 am
EastStang wrote:Wasn't Sturdivant an All-State player out of Georgia and pretty highly recruited. On the other hand, he was an SMU legacy. One that we should get 100% of the time.
I mean this as a serious, non-loaded question. What percentage of good schools out there get near 100% of their legacies? Is it news when we miss one? Even one that is good enough to play for us?
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by RE Tycoon » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:22 pm
PerunaPunch wrote: Their focus was, exclusively, on beating Tulsa and Rice and going to a bowl.
If true, this takes my already low faith in this coaching staff's ability to a new low. Other coaches are out there pulling double duty (recruiting and coaching) while ours just focus on coaching and we still can't win.
Bennett needs to be gone...like last year.
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by Caballo » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:46 pm
PonyPride wrote: "Russ McCary (P) and Pace Doherty (QB) were high school freshmen and did not play." To the best of my knowledge, SMU has never had high school freshmen on its roster.
Don't forget LaMarque (38 miles from Houston), which puts Wilton McCray on the list, and Tomball (34 miles), which adds Reggie Carrington.
I'll give you LaMarque and Tomball. They are within the realm. That makes two more.
McCary and Doherty are listed as FR-HS, which means they are true freshman. I was aware that freshmen in high school would not be on a college roster. I should have been more specific I guess.
Do you have any information on recruits we have signed out of the Houston area over the last four years that have not panned out?
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by Stallion » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:16 pm
OK now I'm somewhat going to defend the Coaching Staff. No Division 1A school can spend more than 6 days evaluating prospects off campus between September 1-November 26 so it is a Quiet Period I believe. I think they can make telephone contact though. But that should be thrown into the analysis. Very few deals are closed by any school during this period.
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