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Postby westexSMU » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:12 pm

[quote="Me"]F Tyler Lee. This won't make a bump in how coaches accept Jones and his staff. Being a hs coach I can tell you that coaches are foaming at the mouth for the opportunity to go and talk football with Jones and his staff.[/quote].........................You are exactly right.
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Postby George S. Patton » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:15 pm

westexSMU wrote:Cris Parry sports writer for the Tyler Morning Tele. says " As word of this gets out over Texas about Jones and his staff" it will not be easy for them to recruit...BUT HEY Mr. Parry, everything is OK for Petrino at ARKANSAS and Art Biles at BAYLOR who have pulled scolarships RECENTLY WITH COACHING CHANGES because they are not SMU right ?...........Most of us feel sorry for Dews, but......This article is such BS the way it ATTACKS SMU that I hope ALL SMU FANS will join me in writing/contacting Mr. Parry and ask him about why he and Coach Owens want to just attack SMU when others school in our area have pulled Texas kids Scholarships ???


As I said in the other thread, Mike Owens controls the Tyler media and has for years. And you've just read example of that control.
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Postby OC Mustang » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:47 pm

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westexSMU wrote:Cris Parry sports writer for the Tyler Morning Tele. says " As word of this gets out over Texas about Jones and his staff" it will not be easy for them to recruit...BUT HEY Mr. Parry, everything is OK for Petrino at ARKANSAS and Art Biles at BAYLOR who have pulled scolarships RECENTLY WITH COACHING CHANGES because they are not SMU right ?...........Most of us feel sorry for Dews, but......This article is such BS the way it ATTACKS SMU that I hope ALL SMU FANS will join me in writing/contacting Mr. Parry and ask him about why he and Coach Owens want to just attack SMU when others school in our area have pulled Texas kids Scholarships ???


As I said in the other thread, Mike Owens controls the Tyler media and has for years. And you've just read example of that control.


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Postby westexSMU » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:59 pm

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As I said in the other thread, Mike Owens controls the Tyler media and has for years. And you've just read example of that control.[/quote]..................Maybe so, but he needs to LEARN TEXAS is bigger than Tyler. You can't say all that BS in TEXAS about "how we do things in Texas" when HE KNOWS other schools in the area ( both SEC and BIG 12) with coaching changes have pulled scholarships of Texas recruits within the last few weeks. It happens all the time. Owens would not say Arkansas or BAYLOR can't recruit at Tyler Lee and neither would the other coaches who had their kids scholarships pulled.....So the whole thing is just a shot at SMU because he thinks he can get away with it, but other media, he does not control, understand the TRUTH in my point......I would have some respect for Coach Owens if he stated the FACTS and admitted this has happened recently and in the past at other area universities and say SMU coaches along with Baylor and Arkansas coaches are welcome at Tyler Lee.
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Postby Jeffrey Lebowski » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:18 pm

Me wrote:F Tyler Lee. This won't make a bump in how coaches accept Jones and his staff. Being a hs coach I can tell you that coaches are foaming at the mouth for the opportunity to go and talk football with Jones and his staff. This all means nothing and the hillbillys in Tyler will forget about this as soon as their snuff cans are empty.


Have you ever even been to Tyler? Hillbilly and snuff are terms that apply much better to areas of DFW than they do to Tyler. Before you post insults, at least try and make sure there is at least some basis for it.
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Postby Danny Noonan » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:50 pm

Bobby Petrino didn't pull anyones scholarship. He cancelled a visit to devin thomas and he decommitted.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:07 pm

BTW SMU was recruiting another Tyler Lee kid pretty hard under Bennett


Jamal Mitchell, RB, Tyler Lee, 5-10, 185 — offers from Colorado, Kansas State, SMU, TCU.
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Postby George S. Patton » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:35 pm

Stallion wrote:BTW SMU was recruiting another Tyler Lee kid pretty hard under Bennett


Jamal Mitchell, RB, Tyler Lee, 5-10, 185 — offers from Colorado, Kansas State, SMU, TCU.


Theoretically, if I'm Jamal, I listen to EVERYONE, get the perspective, see what fits best, use my football coach as a source -- NOT THE SOURCE (and this goes beyond just Owens), talk with my parents, and then make the best decision possible.

And generally speaking, when it comes to recruiting, the good high school coaches advise and DO NOT INSTRUCT their kids on where to go.
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Postby WorldStang » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:51 pm

I'm from Tyler - and honestly, I would be pissed too if I were Owens. What's the problem with that? Owens is a good coach and has a solid rep in town. Say what you will about his quote - but in the same shoes most on this board would say the same thing.

Not a great foot to start on..

BTW.. Don't count on Brad Brookshire getting involved - that's a laugh. Brad and Ann are great people, but they're just slightly busy with more important things. The funniest thing mentioned on this board is the fact that anyone knew Andy Bergfeld was from Tyler. The only time he caught a pass was when Romo threw it hard enough to get stuck in his face mask.
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Postby Bergermeister » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:19 am

George S. Patton wrote: Mike Owens controls the Tyler media

Tyler media? Tyler MEDIA? :roll:
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Postby Billy Joe » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:58 am

Tell Mike Owens he is not allowed on SMU's campus. Hey Mikey, go play in traffic. How do you like those apples...bbbbeeeooottcchhhhh!!!!!
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Postby The PonyGrad » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:19 am

On the other hand this could create a postive buzz among Texas players that SMU's standards have gone up with respect to the kind of players they are recruiting.

Also, SMU fans should be encouraged because this indicates that JJ expects to fill his scholarships, and with good players. 8)
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Postby Top 25 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:34 am

Again, this has been grossly distorted.

Every committed recruit was told by the Athletic Department, once Bennett was let go, that neither the school nor the player was committed to the other.

This is no surprise.

And as to the timing of the ultimate callback, Owens may want to remember that June Jones only hit the ground last Tuesday, and then was quickly off to Houston.

By the way, when was the last time you saw a high school coach jump up on a soap box when one of his players changed his commitment?

(And, yes, it is true that Bennett repeatedly said that the biggest mistake he made when he came here was honoring Cavan's deathbed commitments.)
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Postby BRStang » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:59 am

Top 25 wrote:Again, this has been grossly distorted.

Every committed recruit was told by the Athletic Department, once Bennett was let go, that neither the school nor the player was committed to the other.

This is no surprise.

And as to the timing of the ultimate callback, Owens may want to remember that June Jones only hit the ground last Tuesday, and then was quickly off to Houston.

By the way, when was the last time you saw a high school coach jump up on a soap box when one of his players changed his commitment?

(And, yes, it is true that Bennett repeatedly said that the biggest mistake he made when he came here was honoring Cavan's deathbed commitments.)


Apparently, there are some people pretty upset by this. One supposed father of a recruit that's been offered by SMU is reconsidering...

Posted on other board by win1free: "My son was offered by Coach Jones, but reading about this makes me wonder about the Coach, to put a kid out in the cold makes no sense!!!
SMU took its sweet time in getting a coach and asked the recruits to please hang in there and this is how this young man is rewarded."
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Postby perunapower » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:11 am

That doesn't surprise me. I can't say I blame the parents and recruits for taking time to look at this report. Any time a coach rescinds a scholarship offer, you have to take the time to learn more about the situation and question his commitment to players.

Some of you were silly to think this would be positive or at least neutral in SMU's recruiting efforts. This likely won't cripple our recruiting, but it definitely away some of the buzz we had going from the hire.
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