Denzel Wells

[George S. Patton]

I believe he'll do just fine as long as he is able to go after the best player regardless of whether is a high school player, transfer, Division 1A Transfer, JUCO, Prep or late qualifier via Community College just like his competition does. I don't believe its correct to assume he has proven himself to be an unparrelleled evaluator of high school athletes like was suggested. He'll win if he gets better talent than his opponents-those hoping he will turn coal into diamonds will be disappointed.

We've had enough coal come through this program that would make a West Virginia miner feel proud.

[mustangbill67]

Seems to me that pulling some of the Bennett offers is getting us away from the coal i.e. projects. Only recruit players that have a bona fide chance of success. JJ is being paid very big bucks to shed us of the death penalty paradigm. We need to embrace this effort. Not to be dramatic, but this is a critical time ifor the future of SMU football.

[Stallion]

Well I'm not a fan of yanking scholarship offers-a stance I've held for years but I agree that just about the entire recruiting class Phil Bennett had put together were marginal Division 1A quality.

[Ponymon]

Well I'm not a fan of yanking scholarship offers-a stance I've held for years but I agree that just about the entire recruiting class Phil Bennett had put together were marginal Division 1A quality.

I agree with you, Stallion.

[me@smu]

Latest article on wells says that he has offers to Rice and SMU but is also being heavily courted by Arkansas and SMU but hasn't received an offer.

I am sure they mean than Southern Miss by one of those two SMU...but no clue which one.

Regarding the 5.2 versus 5.1 stuff...don't get hung up on it. Rivals indicates the following tranches - 6.1 / 6.0-5.8 / 5.7-5.5 / 5.4-5.0 /4.9

5.2 or 5.1 rivals is labeling them as "Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player"

[ponyboy]

Well I'm not a fan of yanking scholarship offers-a stance I've held for years but I agree that just about the entire recruiting class Phil Bennett had put together were marginal Division 1A quality.

The scholarship offers had been effectively yanked when we sent the letter in November. Get me a violin somebody.

[Stallion]

Ponyboy and about 50% of you suckups are being completely two faced about this incident-I know because these situations which used to be rare but seem to be happening more an more with the "new breed of Coaches" have been discussed repeatedly on these boards and each time said coach was almost unanimously vilified. Guess some of you change your positions depending on whose hide is being tanned. I think its a terrible policy to jerk scholarship offers and do think it will frowned upon by many in the THSCA.

[ponyboy]

Commitments have softened on both sides because there's both a "new breed of coaches" as well as a new breed of recruit. It goes both ways, that's the nature of the game and everyone knows it. You get that letter in November you sure as heck better be out pounding the pavement.

[Pony4Life]

Ponyboy and about 50% of you suckups are being completely two faced about this incident-I know because these situations which used to be rare but seem to be happening more an more with the "new breed of Coaches" have been discussed repeatedly on these boards and each time said coach was almost unanimously vilified. Guess some of you change your positions depending on whose hide is being tanned. I think its a terrible policy to jerk scholarship offers and do think it will frowned upon by many in the THSCA.

Whatever. Tell him to talk to Corey Fuller or Ladarrius Gunn or Nick Sampson or Terence Ganaway or any number of others about loyalty.
It's not sucking up. You have pointed out - rightly so, I hesitantly admit - that college athletics is a business. If we steal a commitment from someone else, we all hail the coaches as godsends. Maybe they have enough guys they think they can steal that they think they need these spots. We have to move on, and so do these kids. Life isn't fair. You deal with what comes your way. Sometimes it sucks, but you deal with it and move on.

[papawasamustang]

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Well I'm not a fan of yanking scholarship offers-a stance I've held for years but I agree that just about the entire recruiting class Phil Bennett had put together were marginal Division 1A quality.
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Dews didn't even make the all district team which includes 8 OL & 7 DL.
Of the 8 OL 2 were from Tyler Lee & of the 7 DL 1 was from Tyler Lee.
Unless I'm missing something it appears to me he isn't a D1 prospect.
I feel bad for the young man. Tyler JC is a good program. Maybe he cen get an opportunity to play their.

[mavsrage311]

Well I'm not a fan of yanking scholarship offers-a stance I've held for years but I agree that just about the entire recruiting class Phil Bennett had put together were marginal Division 1A quality.

I agree with you, Stallion.

so hopefully you won't call me an idiot and accuse me of running up my post count when I say the same thing again?

[Pony Fan]

It was my understanding that there was disagreement among PB's staff as to whether to take him or not. That should tell you enough.

[OC Mustang]

It was my understanding that there was disagreement among PB's staff as to whether to take him or not. That should tell you enough.

If you are talking about Dews, you are damn right that there should have been disagreement. I'll be real, and the coaches ought to be real (especially Coach Owens for Tyler Lee). 6 foot nothing should never, ever, under any healthy circumstance weigh 340+ lbs. That's just asinine, stupid, and borderline criminal to allow a child/teenager to get that big. Heart attack, stroke, and diabetes waiting to happen.

[TheBestAvailable]

Let me see, we are telling recruits that are rated 5.2 by Rivals that their scholarship will not be honored so that we can pick up guys rated 5.1. Somehow this does not sound good to me, how about you?

It's called talent evaluation. Sometimes recruiting rankings aren't accurate.

[malachi896]

This whole argument is dumb...i mean seriously...you are having a fuss because JJ dropped a 5.2 rivals guy for a 5.1 rivals guy? Who said rivals is always right? you are making a big assumption, that those stupid numbers they put next to a guy is the ultimate authority on whether he will be a good player or not. And what is this ranking based on? A highlight reel? Get real. Rivals is wrong. Alot. Rivals is also correct on rankings also. At the end of the day, it is just a ranking system and its predictions on who will be good/bad is a complete crap shot.

Let me give you a perfect example. I played at Richardson Berkner, and from day one, when I was a senior and Aqib Talib was a sophomore, I could tell that he was going to be playing in the NFL one day. He just had the athleticism, work ethic, confidence in his abilities and that general swagger. His senior season, rivals only gave him a 2 star ranking with a 5.2 overall. Needless to say, 3 years later he is projecting as a first round draft pick in the upcoming NFL draft. That 2 star rating seems way off now.

Ratings are just opinions by people who watch a few hours of highlight material and do not guarantee greatness in college. For every 5 star rivals stud that ends up being a star, there are just as many that crap out. Also, there are plenty of kids that are ranked in the low 5's and "not good talent" that end up being amazing.

Getting worked up over a .1 difference in a ranking from a website is absurd. Trust in a coach that turned around a program that had an inept athletic department and a small recruiting budget as opposed to a website.