Offer Breakdown - TCU, SMU, UH, Rice and UCF

by **mrydel** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:28 pm

There are a lot better things to hate.

by **SMULaxer** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:37 pm

you shouldn't hate anything mr ydel --- but a rivalry is a rivalry. don't come in here and flaunt your program in our faces. fightin' words.

by **mrydel** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:52 pm

Give me one example of ReedFrawg flaunting his rivalry. That is the point I am making. He brought us data that I found to be interesting. He compared the top schools in our conference last year along with his school which like it or not is one we are trying to emulate. I appreciated the info but because he is from TCU he immediately gets attacked.

by **ReedFrawg** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:55 pm

Dutch wrote:
SMULaxer wrote:This is analysis of someone who attended a second tier university. Take is with a grain of salt.

you're new here, so we'll take this with a grain of salt b/c you don't know good from bad yet. Reedfrog is a worthwhile poster with generally unbiased, well thought out posts. not mindless purple dribble.

Thanks Dutch and mrydel. I just thought some of you might want to see the breakdown. Nothing more....hope to see smu success continue and enjoy reading this board.

by **SoCal_Pony** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:59 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:How many pages are you going to post on?

You guys really need to stay on your own board...

I would agree with you on about everyone but ReedFrawg. He is a good poster, suspect a good guy.

by **NickSMU17** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:59 pm

The info was wrong and it clearly made a point of saying tcu is the greatest of them all. If it was regional included all regional schools, but put in rice, uh, ucf?, and tcu it clearly making a point that tcu's class is great.

I'm not going to keep arguing bc it is pointless. the great thing about this country is that tcu fans can freely post on their rivals message board. I am also sure Reed is a great guy but I am tired of hearing about fukin tcu when I log onto ponyfans.

We just signed a class that will allow us to beat them and others and I want to celebrate that.

by **ReedFrawg** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:00 pm

SMULaxer wrote:you shouldn't hate anything mr ydel --- but a rivalry is a rivalry. don't come in here and flaunt your program in our faces. fightin' words.

Not flaunting at all...if I didn't include TCU I figured everyone would be curious so I included us. I also included some of the schools I care about. I have a friend who coaches at Rice so I included them and there has been a lot of discussion about the UCF class so I included them for you guys. Didn't mean to cause a stir.

Nick you always get bent out of shape when I post...its a fan message board. Nothing wrong with having some outside input to keep things lively.

by **ReedFrawg** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:02 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:The info was wrong and it clearly made a point of saying tcu is the greatest of them all. If it was regional included all regional schools, but put in rice, uh, ucf?, and tcu it clearly making a point that tcu's class is great.

I'm not going to keep arguing bc it is pointless. the great thing about this country is that tcu fans can freely post on their rivals message board. I am also sure Reed is a great guy but I am tired of hearing about fukin tcu when I log onto ponyfans.

We just signed a class that will allow us to beat them and others and I want to celebrate that.

I didn't have time to include every regional school and none of us care about the Big 12 schools anyway. Go ahead and celebrate your class - I am not taking anything away from that.

by **NickSMU17** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:04 pm

My issue is that the minute tcu gets brought up over here. 10 guys from killerfrogs run over here to gloat...

It's all cyclical my friends and that's why I stick with my team instead of wasting my time on other teams boards...at some point you will look like an asss.

I have no problem with people joining in on the discussion but that's rarely how it plays out.

by **SoCal_Pony** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:13 pm

Funny response and I really can't disagree with you being annoyed by TCU posters, I am as well. RF is ok though.

BTW, How is the info wrong?

by **ReedFrawg** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:16 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:My issue is that the minute tcu gets brought up over here. 10 guys from killerfrogs run over here to gloat...

It's all cyclical my friends and that's why I stick with my team instead of wasting my time on other teams boards...at some point you will look like an asss.

I have no problem with people joining in on the discussion but that's rarely how it plays out.

Agree with regard to a lot of the TCU visitors here but I have been posting on this board for several years now. I have a lot of down time

and enjoy visiting. I also do not post just when TCU gets brought up so please keep in mind that not all TCU posters are cut from the same cloth.

by **Samurai Stang** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:20 pm

ReedFrawg wrote:
NickSMU17 wrote:My issue is that the minute tcu gets brought up over here. 10 guys from killerfrogs run over here to gloat...

It's all cyclical my friends and that's why I stick with my team instead of wasting my time on other teams boards...at some point you will look like an asss.

I have no problem with people joining in on the discussion but that's rarely how it plays out.

Agree with regard to a lot of the TCU visitors here but I have been posting on this board for several years now. I have a lot of down time and enjoy visiting. I also do not post just when TCU gets brought up so please keep in mind that not all TCU posters are cut from the same cloth.

ReedFrawg admirably represses his TCU/Korean heritage when commenting on the glory of SMU.

by **ReedFrawg** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:54 pm

Samurai Stang wrote:ReedFrawg admirably represses his TCU/Korean heritage when commenting on the glory of SMU.

I do my best sensei...

by **GoRedGoBlue** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:00 pm

ReedFrawg wrote:Obviously there is no exact science to measure a recruiting class. However, like Stallion, I believe that looking at the offers a player has is more valuable than their star ranking - this is even more relevant based on the fact that Rivals is much quicker to give out 3 stars now than they were 5 years ago. I only included D1A offers...

Here it is...
SMU 27 Players 92 Total Offers 38 BCS Offers
TCU 25 123 80
Rice 20 59 12
Hou 22 41 21
UCF 26 111 76

Based on this, UCF had an outstanding class. Houston had a weak class...thought you guys might be curious like I was.

Perhaps a better analysis would show how many players had multiple bcs offers...

Ex: 2 or 3 players from UCF could have had 10-15 bcs offers, distorting the results of the analysis

I'd like to see it broken up by how many players who signed had a bcs offer, and how many had multiple bcs offers. That would be more representative of what you are trying to show.

by **ReedFrawg** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:22 am

GoRedGoBlue wrote:I'd like to see it broken up by how many players who signed had a bcs offer, and how many had multiple bcs offers. That would be more representative of what you are trying to show.

SMU (per rivals) - I excluded the preferred walk-on.
0 BCS offers....13 players
1....6
2....3
3....1
4....2
7....1
8....1

UCF (comparison purposes)
0....9
1....1
2....2
3....4
4....2
5....1
6....5
7....1
9....1

TCU (comparison only - not flaunting)
0....6
1....3
2....3
3....1
4....3
5....1
6....1
7....1
9....2
11...1

Won't bother with Rice and UH.