Time to panic yet?

[Junior]

Fair enough. I can agree with this.

[PonyKai]

Seriously though, given the lengthy and in-depth discussion that this board has given the subject over the last few weeks, to swoop in and pretty much say "OMG how can you be that concerned about a single decommit" is so incredibly far off the mark it's in another galaxy. It would take about 2 1/2 minutes of light browsing to generate a more informed and profound stated opinion.

I wasn't trying to be the jerk using cryptology from Rivals to scare the children and get more subscribers, I was being the jerk wondering how someone missed the discussion mark so badly.

[smudubs]

I've read the comments on this site concerning recruiting and have disregarded all of them because it is way too early to panic. My previous posts on the subject demonstrate this point. My comments on THIS THREAD are confined to the statements and accusations contained herein.

I mentioned the one decommit because one poster specifically stated that information on an unnamed pay site should have us panicked. I subscribe to both and the only potentially alarming thing mentioned concerning RECRUITING is the fact that we had one player decommit. Further, the thread was started near the time we lost the commitment. I know that we have another commit who is waffling but again this is normal. Both Levingston and Moreland waffled last year and ultimately signed LOIs in February. If I'm in the wrong galaxy on this, please share specific information to bring me back to earth.

Unless some of the people who post these cryptic panic threads are secretly employed by the SMU athletic department and have first-hand information and not merely rumors concerning recruiting, I see no need to panic.

The only issue I see concerning recruiting is the fact that Klemm seems to be doing the lion's share of the work. Other coaches are also recruiting, but the staff seems to rely on Klemm to close. When the athletic department announces Klemm is leaving then I will understand if people panic. That being said, however, June and the majority of this staff took a Hawaii team to the Sugar Bowl without Klemm or a plethora of Texas recruits. So even that would not having me screaming the sky is falling. Stated more succinctly for those with limited reading comprehension, its possible to win without AK or solely recruiting your "backyard."

Finally, It has also been mentioned that the reason for panic concerns current players. If this is truly the case why are we discussing it on the recruiting board?

[RGV Pony]

I've read the comments on this site concerning recruiting and have disregarded all of them because it is way too early to panic. My previous posts on the subject demonstrate this point. My comments on THIS THREAD are confined to the statements and accusations contained herein.

I mentioned the one decommit because one poster specifically stated that information on an unnamed pay site should have us panicked. I subscribe to both and the only potentially alarming thing mentioned concerning RECRUITING is the fact that we had one player decommit. Further, the thread was started near the time we lost the commitment. I know that we have another commit who is waffling but again this is normal. Both Levingston and Moreland waffled last year and ultimately signed LOIs in February. If I'm in the wrong galaxy on this, please share specific information to bring me back to earth.

Unless some of the people who post these cryptic panic threads are secretly employed by the SMU athletic department and have first-hand information and not merely rumors concerning recruiting, I see no need to panic.

The only issue I see concerning recruiting is the fact that Klemm seems to be doing the lion's share of the work. Other coaches are also recruiting, but the staff seems to rely on Klemm to close. When the athletic department announces Klemm is leaving then I will understand if people panic. That being said, however, June and the majority of this staff took a Hawaii team to the Sugar Bowl without Klemm or a plethora of Texas recruits. So even that would not having me screaming the sky is falling. Stated more succinctly for those with limited reading comprehension, its possible to win without AK or solely recruiting your "backyard."

Finally, It has also been mentioned that the reason for panic concerns current players. If this is truly the case why are we discussing it on the recruiting board?

Gotta find them.
Gotta recruit them.
Gotta get them to commit.
Gotta get them in.
Gotta keep them in.

I don't panic. I become concerned. I am concerned.

[NickSMU17]

He leaves the panicking to me...I don't want to be Hawaii sugar bowl team...I want tcu

[RGV Pony]

He leaves the panicking to me...I don't want to be Hawaii sugar bowl team...I want tcu

nor the SMU Hawaii Bowl team. Cannot let that be the apex of the JJ era

[PonyKai]

At the risk of beating the hell out of a horse that died long ago, there are two sides to the coin. No staff has accomplished what this staff has at SMU in 25 years. Kudos are in order, and were passed out generously for our accomplishments over the last two seasons.

The same side of that coin is that no staff deserves more scrutiny than the staff that we have in place right now. He is a marquee, name coach, with a proven track record that has taken a non-AQ team to a BCS game, and brought an abysmal team out of the college football doldrums at Hawai'i, with no recruiting budget, no ability to travel for players, no facilities, very little administration support, and a talent pool decidedly smaller than the school he currently works for. We (the Royal 'We') are paying an exorbitant amount in the form of salary, have given the staff more freedom and leeway than any staff since the '80's, and the expectations are rightfully much higher. This ain't the good 'ol days of Phil and Jerry Bennett where we just hope and pray that we magically somehow claw our way to 6 or 7 wins and a birth against some P.O.S Sun Belt team in the R+L Carriers Bowl in New Orleans. The goal is to build a consistently winning, sustainable program of excellence that can be handed off to the next staff, whenever and whomever they be.

41 months into the regime, there are intelligent, rational, decent folk who have expressed legitimate concerns as to how that goal is being pursued, and perhaps with how much vigor. Those who vehemently deny all concerns have also brought constructive opinion to the debate, but I do not agree with that assessment. Like several of our decent, intelligent, rational fans (oxymoron, given the definition of fan) I have concerns, and hope that they are addressed moving forward to help SMU achieve its goals on the field.

[Stallion]

The following would raise concerns and raised eye-brows(ie"the [deleted] would hit the Fan") of knowledgeable followers of recruiting at every one of these schools. What exactly were our other 8 recruiters doing while Klemm was in California? Not a single post that I've read has complained about what Klemm is doing in California

March 17, 2011

1. Baylor- 60 Texas Offers
2. A&M- 47 Texan Offers
3. Tech- 42 Texas Offers
4. TCU- 29 Texan Offers
5. Houston- 32 TexaOffers
6. Texas- 24 Texas Offers
7. SMU - 9 TEXAS Offers

UPDATED April 26

1. Baylor-71 Texas Offers
2. A&M- 50 Texas Offers
3. Tech- 47 Texas Offers
4. TCU-31 Texas Offers
5. Houston- 42 Texas Offers
6. Texas-22 Texas Offers
7. Rice-18 Texas Offers
8. SMU - 12 TEXAS Offers

May 17, 2011

1. Baylor- 71 Texas Offers
2. A&M- 50 Texas Offers
3. Tech- 48 Texas Offers
4. Houston- 45 Texas Offers
5. TCU-35 Texas Offers
6. Texas- 24 Texas Offers
7. Rice 28 Texas Offers
8. SMU 18 Texas Offers

*approximately 62% of Texas Top 100 Committed-(and a bunch of other top recruits committed or narrowing down choices too)). Its worth mentioning that SMU-despite about 25 California offers doesn't have a single solid commitment in California either as Robert Lewis is just about a jump ball at this point.

[GiddyUp]

That is certainly alarming to me... seems like we even paid attention to Texas only recently. I would expect a lot of offers after these camps, hopefully we can sneak past Rice

[ponyboy]

We don't have nearly as many reported offers out to Texas recruits as the average team in Texas. We got it. Great info. Thank you. And we got that it's sufficient reason for concern and discussion.

And we got that Klemm, our recruiting coordinator, has his name on most of the offers. Great info. Thank you. Sufficient reason for concern and discussion.

What we don't have is a discussion of how good are the recruits if you IGNORE WHERE THEY ARE FROM. It's a very simple question that we are apparently banned from discussing.

[2ndandlong]

We don't have nearly as many reported offers out to Texas recruits as the average team in Texas. We got it. Great info. Thank you. And we got that it's sufficient reason for concern and discussion.

And we got that Klemm, our recruiting coordinator, has his name on most of the offers. Great info. Thank you. Sufficient reason for concern and discussion.

What we don't have is a discussion of how good are the recruits if you IGNORE WHERE THEY ARE FROM. It's a very simple question that we are apparently banned from discussing.

Because they're better than in recent history and not worth panicking over which makes for a weak thread?

[ponyboy]

Possible. The other possibility I could come up with is that some feel that the discussion is stealing info from Rivals. But if that's the case, so is mentioning the number of Texas offers. So that can't be it.

Look, we have ten, TEN uncommitted out-of-state Rivals *four star* guys who have us on their lists. TEN! But we can't discuss that vis a vis how it relates to the quality of the current class?! We only get to focus on our in state efforts?

[Stallion]

And I think everyone of them is a Klemm recruit and 9 are from the West-. We get that too-nobody has or is bitchin' about that. It will be exciting if we get even 1. I think we are talking about a realistifc shot at about 3-many have long since seemed to move on from SMU. Now what about the other 8 recruiters. What about the 375 Texas prospects and 170 DFW prosects.

[ponyboy]

It will be exciting if we get even 1. I think we are talking about a realistic shot at about 3

Why do you say that? Just based on the numbers of offers these recruits are holding (often 20 plus)? If so, that makes sense. I can buy that. If you’re one of twenty schools, your chances tend to diminish if your name’s not USC or Texas.

But, ignoring where they're from and whether a single SMU coach or an army of SMU coaches are recruiting them, is the quality of interest at this point not at least a mild indicator of the quality of the recruiting effort? Can any conclusions be drawn? Because it seems to me we haven’t sniffed this level of guys in, well, many, many years.

[Stallion]

You're right-after re-analysis of their most recent comments I think we have a realistic shot at only 1 West Coast 4 Star-and yet you seem to think the fact that 15 took our l calls gives us some kind of magical recruiting bonus points. This ain't handgrenades. You are awarded zero recruiting points from coming in 2nd.