The Great Jim Gush

[Stallion]

You are quickly climbing the list of the Clueless. These guys are very highly recruited especially in comparison to SMU's commitments. Are you drunk because I can't figure out the point you failed to make. They have other Texas offers and they have a bunch of offers from BCS Bowl team too. like Oklahoma(2), TCU, Stanford and Oregon and from a bunch of BCS schools as well

[Stallion]

still don't know what this guy was talking about but went to see if Scout credited these DFW Baylor recruits with less offers-Nope in fact they show 45 offers for the 7 commitments

[SoCal_Pony]

Make that 7 DFW recruits with 38 offers. SMU offered

http://rivals.yahoo.com/northtexas/foot ... lmer-89922

In other words ( You wont say it) of all the 7 Baylor DFW Commitments. One Player has one offer from one Texas School......WOW....That is really Kicking Tail !! Outstanding Recruiting!!

During his 4 recruiting classes here, JJ has signed ~5 WRs per class or 20 in total.

Jonathon Lee from Allen who committed to Baylor also had offers from Arkansas, Duke, Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Louisville, Nebraska, Oregon and Purdue (as well as several non-BCS schools including Houston and SMU).

Jonathon Lee has more quality BCS offers than ALL of JJ’s WRs combined over the past 4 years.

For a RnS guru such as JJ, I do not understand why we have been so unsuccessful in recruiting WRs and QBs. I was expecting a lot more (to his credit, he has done a terrific job btw on LBs and OL, go figure).

[ponyinNC]

and RBs, which is strange to me too. I thought we'd get a 4 star qb type already...but maybe this is the year we get those WRs (Payton, Lewis, Marks??)

[stampedesbabyboy]

Thanks for Playing:

SMU Against Texas Teams They Recruit Against

Baylor 0-9
Houston 2-12-1
Rice 7-16
Texas 0-7
Texas A&M 0-7-1
TCU 5-17
Tech 0-14

Total Winning Percentage 14%

Its not my point. Its your POINT!

[GiddyUp]

For a RnS guru such as JJ, I do not understand why we have been so unsuccessful in recruiting WRs and QBs. I was expecting a lot more (to his credit, he has done a terrific job btw on LBs and OL, go figure).

agreed!! - get some damn WR studs - that is your offense for crying out loud

[Mexmustang]

Still don't know why we seemed to drop our pitch to Wheeler (4-Star Texas WR--TTU who appeared somewhat disappointed that we simply stoped calling him weeks ago) or why we have the "gall" to go after USC commits but appear to simply stop when the same situation may exist with Texas recruits committed to lesser football schools. Maybe we don't know the Texas recruits as well as Adrian knows the real situation with his California offers (whether their commitment is soft or premature). We still haven't offered a number of highly ranked uncommitted Texas players, some at least put us down as a school of interest. Anyone have any ideas? Certainly our valuation can't bee that far from a Rivals 4-5 star rating with a multitude of offers from major programs.

While the position coaches seemed to have begun to recruit Texas, they are late in the process. We still have four coaches that do little to no recruiting at all, which seems high.

[Hey June]

This argument is silly. There are different ways to recruit:

A quick count from our on-line roster lists 34 players from outside the state of Texas.

Last year's Auburn team that won the national championship had 55 out-of-state players.
Oklahoma lists 66.
Notre Dame lists 72
Stanford: 72
Boise State: 75!

For a more comparable school, Tulsa's roster lists 52 out-of-state guys.
Rice has 11 out-of-state players on its roster. (Staying close to home clearly has worked out well there, right?)
Texas Tech: 19
UTEP: 28
Baylor: 8 (considering their track record, maybe the Bears should cast a wider net?)

This is not to say one school does it right and another does it wrong. It's just that some teams have success recruiting mostly in-state players, and some reach outside of their state's borders. At the same time, some teams stay close to home for recruiting and win, while others follow the same pattern and struggle. In other words, what state a player comes from is irrelevant. If he can play, he can play, and Coach Jones and his staff are trying to find guys who fit that description.

[Charleston Pony]

The states of Alabama, Indiana and Idaho also have a fraction of the D-1 players that Texas produces every year. The whole point is that we have plenty of quality players right here at home and need to be competing for top talent "in-state" if we want to reach that top 25 goal.

[Stallion]

Ha! Classic Post.
Idaho had 3 Division 1A prospects last year
Notre Dame and OU have to recruit 4-5 stars and there are only a handful as in one hand of prospects in their state rated that high. (Actually less-Indiana 3 Oklahoma 2 in 2011)
Stanford HAS to recruit Nationally to get players that can get admitted. I read a story recently that they had something like 18 decommits last year mainly because commits couldn't get admitted although some left after Harbaugh left

http://jimstefani.wordpress.com/2010/02 ... mmitments/

[PonyKai]

I got a chuckle out of the Boise State comparison as well. What about Montana?!?! How many Mantanians are on their squad?!

[Lotus]

Don't remember seeing Montana play in any major bowl games.

I can't believe he took the time to look at all of those rosters, but Hey June is right. Get a class full of good players, regardless of where they're from. Sure, it would make a cute story if they're all local (or, to a lesser degree, in-state) guys, but it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference aside from the idea that "we're Texans and don't need outside help." Well, until we win more consistently, the fact is we do. Go 10-2 a couple of times and more top Texas players will look our way.

[PonyKai]

They didn't. Of course, if you look at a map, you might notice Montana sitting right next to Idaho...maybe. It's a geographic joke. There are between slim and none when it comes to D1 prospects from that part of the country.

[giacfsp]

Don't mean to speak for someone else, but it seems that all that was said is that players are found everywhere. The idea that we have to get them from Texas, or get a certain number from Texas, is silly. We should sign the best players we can get, whether they're from Texas, California, Louisiana, Florida or anywhere else.

[Charleston Pony]

I will grant you that...as long as we are competing for top 25 caliber talent, I don't care where they are from. If SMU can develop a national following, so much the better

the key is to compete with the big boys for that top 25 talent