Do recruiting critics want it both ways?

[NickSMU17]

Long time to go...hopefully someone lights some fires...I don't know enough to tell you whether they are great or shti...

But I do know how a great business operates and we sure aren't a model of efficiency...I work in a field that is team and resource dependent and if we ran our business like the SMU current model, we may have a good year or 2, but in the long run we would get beat and beat badly by our competitors...

[ponyboy]

So you have a problem with the recruiting org structure even if that's how most successful BCS schools do it?

[Mitch McConnell]

No I'll stick with my assessment. They are easily bringing up the rear as far as contacting and offering Texas recruits and they basically took a pass on the vast majority of Texas Top 100s-about 60% of which have already committed

Right and how many of that 60% do you believe SMU had a real shot at landing? This is where you and I differ about this. You don't believe a signature win in this state is paramount. I believe it is. Kids are visual. They want to see you do it BIG TIME. SMU hasn't done it BIG TIME yet, especially in this state. That's critical. I don't think SMU can get through as many doors as you think it can until that happens.

You appear to believe in the funneling practice (throw a bunch of offers out there and see who falls through). There may be something to that, but it may be a practice the Jones administration doesn't agree with. But I would submit to you that SMU's name WILL NOT change in this state until it really really does something.

[NickSMU17]

So you have a problem with the recruiting org structure even if that's how most successful BCS schools do it?

Ohh...I didnt know we had a bcs expert on the board...please tell us how its done at schools like USC, alabama, Florida....

Whatever they do we should be doing...

Our best model is 45 minutes away and they have outworked out hustled us for 15 years...

Only difference is that they are a BCS team now and we have had a decent couple of seasons...and I do mean couple...

[ponyboy]

Consider:
º Alabama's top three recruiters in the 2011 class appear to have been Sal Sunseri, Jim McElwain and Jeremy Pruitt, who were responsible for all but four of Bama's class, which is universally accepted as one of the nation's best. Obviously, Nick Saban is wasting money on his other assistants, right?

º At Texas Tech, someone named Robert Prunty is credited with pulling in 9.5 recruits, with 10 more coming from three other assistant coaches, so the other 8 assistant coaches pulled in just 9.5 recruits. Tommy Tuberville clearly needs to fire those 8 slackers.

º On the other hand, North Carolina traditionally recruits pretty well, and this year seemed pretty balanced; Sam Pittman is credited with landing 5.5 recruits and Troy Douglas 4.5, but six other assistant coaches got credit for at least one recruit — none more than 2.5. By the "everyone should be pulling his weight" theory, UNC should have a better class than Alabama, right?

All of this is to say there are different approaches to recruiting. Coach Jones has had a number of very good players over the years, has sent a lot to the NFL and has won a lot of games. To get on here and suggest that he has a staff of some guys who work hard and some who don't is, at the very least, uninformed. Coaches have different strengths and therefore get assigned different tasks.

For the fourth time, please read and comment.

[Stallion]

I've attached links to the coaching staffs of all programs that recruit Texas a few weeks ago. SMU's staff is significantly older, more Anglo and/or has less roots in Texas than any staff recruiting Texas.

[ponyboy]

Texas is not the subject right now, Kimosabe. The subject is: RedRiverPony has shown that, like SMU, Alabama and Texas Tech both rely on a relatively few recruiters.

[Mitch McConnell]

I've attached links to the coaching staffs of all programs that recruit Texas a few weeks ago. SMU's staff is significantly older, more Anglo and/or has less roots in Texas than any staff recruiting Texas.

http://www.dramabutton.com/

[NickSMU17]

Texas is not the subject right now, Kimosabe. The subject is: RedRiverPony has shown that, like SMU, Alabama and Texas Tech both rely on a relatively few recruiters.

Our model is 45 minutes down the road...sorry to say but we are neither alabama or texas tech...

Plus Alabama has 3 main recruiters, we have 1, it really proves the point if anything...

The organizational structure is a big problem...

You said you were a broker at one time...I wouldn't be putting clients into this commodity knowing how it runs...

Doesn't mean it can't or won't be fixed, but there is defn some repair needed...

[ponyboy]

Lol. You are a piece of work.

[Stallion]

Typical BS-I actually follow a little Texas Tech recruiting and knew that characterization was either an aberration and untypical. Texas Tech spreads it around:

2009: Commitments
Mainord 4 1/2
Mitchell 4
Moore 4
Litrell 3 1/2
Simmons 3
McNeil 2
Riley 2
McGuire 2
Sadler 1 1/2

2010 Commitments:

Moore 4
Willis 4
Robinson 3
Prunty 2
Sadler 2
Mitchell 1
Russell 1
Mainoird
Unaccounted 10*

* Coaching Change year in which many Tech commits decommitted late due to firing of Leach and introduction of new Coaching Staff. I know without hestitation that most of these guys have been recruiting Texas for years and hit the trail hard.

[Stallion]

Turbeville comes in for first full year of Texas recruiting. The mysterious Robert Prunty was a new hire from Hargrave Military Acadademy that recruited 8 players from other states including some JUCOs too. As pointed out Texas Tech hit Texas hard in both 2011 and 2012 while looking elesewhere. Prunty llooks like Tech's new Klemm. NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT. Here's the Breakdown:

Prunty 9 1/2
Cunbie 4
Mainord 3
Brown 2
McElroy 2
Moore 2
Chad Scott 2
Mounds 1
Glascow 1/2
unaccounted; 3

[ponyboy]

Prunty llooks like Tech's new Klemm. NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.

Then why are you complaining about our Klemm?

[Stallion]

IGNORE^

2012 Tech Commitments:
Cunbie 2 1/2
Moore 1
McElroy 1
Mainored 1
Mounds 1
Brown 1/2
Prunty 0

[ponyboy]

Looks mighty imbalanced to me. How about Alabama?