Recruiting Rankings-Basketball

[Stallion]

I was checking out a ranking of BB recruiting classes from HoopScoop and noticed some interesting things. They rated SMU's class 61st(so far-Spring Signing Date I believe is next Tuesday?) but they incorrectly had the Colorado decommit Ryan Dermody still listed as a commit and failed to list Matt Williams. 8 out of SMU's 13 points came from Dez Willingham. To show up how highly he is rated they gave him an 8 point rating which their legend says is equivalentl to a National Top 11-40 type player. Bamba Falls was rated a 3 which according to their legend means he is rated anywhere between the Top 100-300 players in the country. Baylor and Scott Drew continue to amaze. I knew about Baylor's top flight Texas High School Players but HoopScoop also says they got two inside JCs who are 6-10 and 6-11 and both are rated an 8-(I told you they are out there). Baylor's class is rated 6th in the country. Their lastest commitment is from Mohamed Kone of Southern Idaho JC via France via Africa who has been one of the hottest targets in the Spring Signing Period. Saw articles from both a Kentucky and Kansas site that both KUs were scouting him within the last month. He had interest from Top 20 programs a mile long-literrally 20-30 schools I've seen listed as pursuing him in recent weeks. The other JUCO was listed as a Top 19 International player at all levels. Could Baylor make a big splash in the BIG 12 in 2006 or 2007? BTW in my opinion TOTAL POINT RANKINGS like this are extremely biased toward teams signing large class since you can improve your ranking 100% by signing 6 instead of 3-but interesting nonetheless.

[EastStang]

The DC area All-Met basketball team was just announced announced. On the first team there are three undecided seniors. The other seniors are going to Villanova, UVa., UNC, Maryland, Georgetown. Two underclassmen. Two going to the Big East, three to ACC schools. These kids come from Oxen Hill- Md., Wheaton-Md., Arlington-Va., Woodbridge-Va., Prince Georges County- Md., DC. Three from the Metro Catholic Conference, Two from the Dulaney Conference (Protestant Christian), Two from Maryland public schools, and One from Virgina public schools.

[LakeHighlandsPony]

Is it me Stallion or has Baylor's Athletic Dept. been on a roll. Must be nice to have a real AD and be truly committed to winning and improving.

[RGV Pony]

Just look at what Baylor would've had without the murder & Dave Bliss tuition plan scandal. Lucas, the kid from Miss. State, and somebody else that transferred too. How/why is it and has it been so damn easy to recruit to Waco??

[PK]

Just look at what Baylor would've had without the murder & Dave Bliss tuition plan scandal. Lucas, the kid from Miss. State, and somebody else that transferred too. How/why is it and has it been so damn easy to recruit to Waco??

There must be a lot of tall athletic Baptist kids out there.

[Stampede]

Pass the offering plates one more time. Remember, the NCAA has not spoken on Baylor and its' inequities yet. Stand by as they are asking the same questions...or perhaps they have the answers by now.

[2112]

kind of scary, when Tubbs was supposed to bring in all this top notch talent and our class is #61???????. then you have Baylor, right in the wonderful city of Waco, with the clouds of all this chaos hanging over head (NOT TO MENTION MURDER) and their class is #6!!!!!! what will the spin doctors use on this one?

[EastStang]

Big XII. You get to play UT, Kansas, MU, OU, OSU, TT.
vs. CUSA. Memphis, UAB, UCF, UH, Rice, UTEP.
Scott Drew vs. Jimmy Tubbs.
Drew= Big program experience.
Tubbs= rookie head coach.
I don't know. Tubbs pals in the DISD better step up for him. He was hired because of those relationships and if those kids are going to Baylor it doesn't make Jimmy look good.

[2112]

those disd coaches did alot of BIG talking, and brow beating BEFORE jimmy was hired. two recruiting classes later, they have not delivered a single player.

[EastStang]

In today's environment, don't the AAU and club coaches (Can you say NIKE) wield more influence on these kids than high school coaches? Or put another way, is Jimmy putting the right kind of shoes on our team?

[RGV Pony]

Scott Drew=big time program experience? Valpo?!

Jimmy Tubbs=experience w/ OU
Scott Drew=expereience w/ Valpo

I'm guessing it must be something else...

[Grider]

Just look at what Baylor would've had without the murder & Dave Bliss tuition plan scandal. Lucas, the kid from Miss. State, and somebody else that transferred too. How/why is it and has it been so damn easy to recruit to Waco??

There must be a lot of tall athletic Baptist kids out there.

i think we underestimate baylor's baptist tie-in. i'm sure there are plenty of parents and grandparents pushing for their kid to go to a "good baptist school." i don't think the "good methodist school" has quite the same effect, as smu puts alot less emphasis on it's affiliation with the methodist church.

of course i'm not saying we'll lose all baptist recruits to baylor, but it is one more thing to throw in the mix when a kid is making a decision on a school

[EastStang]

As a good Baptist who looked at both schools, I thought long and hard about Baylor and about SMU. What sold me was the academics and the life after college aspects of the SMU.

The Baptists are in the middle of a food fight and Baylor is on one side of that food fight and the more fundamentalist majority is on the other side of that fight. So, among many Baptists - Baylor is not a "good" Baptists school. Also, there is a world of difference between the African American Baptists and the Texas Southern Baptists (with whom Baylor is identified). Race divisions in that realm still run deep in baptist denominations (although they are closing).

I thought Scott Drew was at a Big X school before coming to Baylor, my bad. Maybe they use the women's coach to recruit men, she is a hottie!

[Grider]

As a good Baptist who looked at both schools, I thought long and hard about Baylor and about SMU. What sold me was the academics and the life after college aspects of the SMU.

The Baptists are in the middle of a food fight and Baylor is on one side of that food fight and the more fundamentalist majority is on the other side of that fight. So, among many Baptists - Baylor is not a "good" Baptists school. Also, there is a world of difference between the African American Baptists and the Texas Southern Baptists (with whom Baylor is identified). Race divisions in that realm still run deep in baptist denominations (although they are closing).

i didn't realize that. thanks for the info. i'm just an old methodist. we don't talk about stuff like that, and we're always out by noon.

[Corso]

It's somewhere between depressing and flat-out amusing to me that any good players would want to go to Baylor for a few years. And while I'd much rather see SMU at the #6 spot, how does #61 compare to our rankings in years past? I would think the Hopkins and Sasser years would be good, but even #61 has to be better than usual, right?