Steve Orsini-Proud Supporter of the Stallion Model

[Stallion]

well isn't it funny how SMU hires Head Coaches and Administrators that come from schools that blatently appeal to among the lowest common admission standards in NCAA competition. Although not quite at the level of JUCO/Non-Qualifier University(K-State) where we got our beloved Football Coach, Steve Orsini achieved the trifecta at Central Florida in Basketball alone with a whopping 5 JC/CC transfers, 3 Division 1A Transfers, 1 Post Graduate Prep Transfer and then threw in for good measure a member of the Dutch Junior National Team-NOT that there is anything wrong with ANY of that. Now are we going to let him do his job or are we going to play games for another 20 years?

[White Helmet]

And how was the UCF bball team this year?

[ponydawg]

"Steve Orsini-Proud Supporter of the Stallion Model"

Ponydawg thinks it is bad [deleted] when people try and almost refer to themselves in the third person.

[DiamondM]

Don't bother him with details, like how our underachieving roster with 1 Juco, 1 Div. I transfer, and a member of the Lithuanian Global Games team beat UCF by 22.

[Stallion]

I've got a detail for you too. Two Consecutive NCAA Tourney Appearances in 2004 and 2005.

[ponydawg]

Ponydawg thinks Stallion just busted you.....
Ponydawg also thinks he is always going to talk in 3rd person....
Giggity giggity..

[PK]

I've got a detail for you too. Two Consecutive NCAA Tourney Appearances in 2004 and 2005.

Not that it makes a rat's [deleted] difference, but out of curiosity, were the whopping 5 JC/CC transfers, 3 Division 1A Transfers, 1 Post Graduate Prep Transfer and ... for good measure a member of the Dutch Junior National Team on those teams in 2004 and 2005?

[Cheesesteak]

I don't think it is funny that coaches and administrators from schools with lower athletics admissions standards than SMU (Bennett from Kansas State and Orsini from Central Florida) come to the Hilltop understanding that they won't be able to "blatently appeal to among the lowest common admissions standards in NCAA competition".

Some leaders accept that institutional missions differ among universities and specifically within athletic departments. They believe that they can succeed (at SMU) without "blatently appeal(ing) to among the lowest common admissions standards in NCAA competition".

SMU's search committee must have believed that Bennett and Orsini can succeed at SMU without KSU or UCF admissions standards.

[SMU Football Blog]

Two points.

First, Orsini did not hire Kirk Speraw, the HC of UCF.

Second, UCF went to the NCAA tournament in 2004 and 2005 as the conference champ of the Atlantic Sun Conference, one of the worst basketball conference in the nation. In their first year in C-USA for basketball, they finished below .500, losing to many mediocre to bad teams like ... SMU.

[Cheesesteak]

Posted by SMU Football Blog (in response to Stallion):

Two points.

First, Orsini did not hire Kirk Speraw, the HC of UCF.

Second, UCF went to the NCAA tournament in 2004 and 2005 as the conference champ of the Atlantic Sun Conference, one of the worst basketball conference in the nation. In their first year in C-USA for basketball, they finished below .500, losing to many mediocre to bad teams like ... SMU.

I was about to do the same research as SMU Football Blog.

This thread authored by Stallion is typical of so many of Stallion's posts...arrogant and self-promoting, missing important information or containing twisted facts all to feed the disingenuous Stallion ego and possibly mislead Ponyfans who don't closely follow intercollegiate athletics.

For example, I refer to the "UTEP Gets 4 Star Florida State Transfer" thread (in Ponyfans Recrutiting category) where I wrote that Stallion is the "King of Sophisticated Sophistry".

[EastStang]

Orsini has at least seen both sides of the equation at ND and at UCF. And I would put GT somewhere in the middle of the pack. Perhaps, he can find a way to get the administration to loosen things without going completely over to the dark side. The problem is of course multi-faceted. Changing the model to a UCF version might help us catch lightning in a bottle, but long term we are still a mid-major in a decent but not great conference and will always have slimmer pickings than the UT's, Baylor's and the A&M's. Our problem of course is that our conference mates include schools like ECU, Marshall, UCF and UTEP who can take anyone with an IQ above 30 and they have better pickings than we do.

[jtstang]

For example, I refer to the "UTEP Gets 4 Star Florida State Transfer" thread (in Ponyfans Recrutiting category) where I wrote that Stallion is the "King of Sophisticated Sophistry".

Sounds like Stallion is not the only self-promoter around these parts....

[Cheesesteak]

Ponyfans' blue ribbon self-promoter puts his own name in the subject.

[jtstang]

Yeah, that's definitely worse than spending half an hour looking up one of your own old posts so you could re-create it here to try to make your point.

[RGV Pony]

Stallion, I'm not sure anyone has really said that your model wouldn't work...or that they are a staunch detractor of such.

Of late, I think the commentary has been, "what can we personally do to enact your model?"