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This is based on calculations done by Tallgrass a Tulsa fan on the CUSA Board- I haven't checked his work for accuracy. It also assumes that Rivals canvasses the entire country as well as they do Texas-which I believe is an incorrect assumption. I don't think Rivals is reputed to be very strong in the Mountain states from my experience.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007 06:48 pm Post subject: CUSA Football Recruiting by Competitive Offers

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The first number is the number of recruits receiving a BCS offer or offers. The second number is the total number of BCS offers received by the recruits.

UCF and Marshall appear to be the clear leaders.

Memphis, Southern Miss, ECU, Houston, SMU, and Tulsa are bunched up in the middle.

UTEP appears to have lost momentum, given its past two losing seasons.

Coaching changes proabably hurt UAB and Tulane.

Perhaps Rice fans can provide some info on their recruits' competing offers.

CUSA/EAST
UCF: 13-38
Marshall: 12-28
Memphis: 9-11
Southern Miss: 7-19
ECU: 6-13
UAB: 3-4

CUSA/WEST
Houston: 9-17
SMU: 8-17
Tulsa: 8-15
UTEP: 2-3
Tulane: 1-1
Rice: N/A

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Posted: 12 Feb 2007 06:59 pm Post subject:

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SMU has 8 recruits offered by BCS schools who collected 18 BCS offers. This is based on more conservative confirmed Rivals reports rather than other unconfirmed reports through home team message board who reportedly interviewed each recruit. Taking the interviews of recruits by Ponyfans.com as gospel SMU had 11 recruits with BCS offers who collected 30 BCS football offers plus 3 BCS track offers. However, SMU was less effective against truly strong BCS programs at least according to Rivals as the BCS offers were from schools like Baylor(3), Kansas (3), Washington St. (2), Indiana(2), UCONN, Boston College, Stanford, Clemson, Kansas St., Missouri, Oklahoma St., and Texas Tech. Ponyfans.com added BCS offers from A&M, Iowa St(3), Washington St, Arizona St., Arkansas(although I believe the recruit meant Arkansas St), Louisville, Iowa, Colorado, Vandy, and Kansas

Again, here is a revised post by Tallgrass adding in recruiting analysis of the Mountain West Conference as well.

The first number is the number of recruits receiving a BCS offer or offers. The second number is the total number of BCS offers received by the recruits. This is all in fun and I would be hesitant to draw any strong conclusions. Again, I am in total agreement that many BYU recruits would have received many BCS offers but committed early to BYU and did not open their recruiting to BCS schools.

1. TCU: 11-44
2. UCF: 13-38
3. Marshall: 12-28
4. Houston: 9-17
5. Memphis: 9-11
6. SMU: 8-17
7. Utah: 8-15
7. Tulsa: 8-15
9. Southern Miss: 7-19
10. BYU: 7-18
11. ECU: 6-13
12. SDSU 6-10
13. UNLV: 3-6
14. CSU: 3-5
15. UAB: 3-4
16. UTEP: 2-3
17. NM: 2-2
17. AFA: 2-2
19. Wyoming: 1-1
20. Tulsane: 1-1
21. Rice: N/A

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Knights_of_UCF
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Posted: 12 Feb 2007 07:15 pm Post subject:

Let's not forget that any information concerning other offers comes from the recruits themselves and not the schools. Not to say any of these recruits in particular may be gilding the lily here to make themselves look better, but these are hardly official numbers I would want to stake my life on.

For whats its worth. JasonB's post where he broke down single and multiple BCS offers as listed per Rivals shows SMU with 9 players with BCS offers as opposed to 8.

This information is very encouraging in my opinion. It shows that we are actually making strides forward which is at least something. When the goal is to win a CUSA Championship and you have recruited better than every team in your division except the conference champ (who we are right there with before you start counting D1 transfers) then something is going right.

I like the analysis but perhaps it would be a more accurate reflection to remove at least the top person. I would like to see say UCF without Alphonso Bryant (who had a the very least 13 BCS offers) or even USM considering that Antwain Easterling has 10 BCS offers mentioned in Rivals.

me@smu wrote:I like the analysis but perhaps it would be a more accurate reflection to remove at least the top person. I would like to see say UCF without Alphonso Bryant (who had a the very least 13 BCS offers) or even USM considering that Antwain Easterling has 10 BCS offers mentioned in Rivals.

He kind of does that for you, the first number is just if a player recieved a bcs offer, doesn't matter if he was offered one or ten, the second number he puts is how many total bcs offers the entire team got.

This is a good analysis. I'd argue against putting TCU above UCF in the cross conference rankings, though. But well done.

ponyboy wrote:This is a good analysis. I'd argue against putting TCU above UCF in the cross conference rankings, though. But well done.

I agree. Can't figure out why TCU is put ahead of UCF and Marshall. All the other teams appear to be ranked by the number of recruits with BCS offers.

Makes one wonder why someone would post such an obvious error.

ponyboy wrote:Makes one wonder why someone would post such an obvious error.

If anything I think this is Stallion admitting that our recruiting this season is noteably better than in recent years past. This analysis has us in the top third of CUSA and Mountain West recruiting classes. Did we beat TCU? No. Is TCU the unquestioned top recruiter in this group? No. But I think the thing that should be taken from this is that we are at very least extremely competitive in recruiting with schools in our conference and a peer conference. This is a FAR cry from last season where probably had what 3-4 players with BCS offers and half our class was comprised of guys with no other significant offers at all.

Also, I would like to repeat that another poster tallied us as having 9 players with BCS offers per Rivals. If you use the SMU Recruiting Roundup I think that number jumps to 10.