2 stars, 3 stars, 4 stars, a dollar....

[George S. Patton]

So if you have 2 stars and your rating is 5.4, how come you're better than somebody who also has 2 stars but is a 5.3?

I guess Rivals measures it by the kinds of offers an athlete receives. I'm sure that's a good measuring stick. Just curious what percentage figures into that and what percentage figures into ability.

Obviously, their reputation is solid or else they wouldn't be in the business they are in.

Just throwing that out there for the sake of discussion.

[jtstang]

If stars have any correlation to on-field success, the overally jtstang rating for SMU in the last twenty years is 0.5 stars.

[perunapower]

If stars have any correlation to on-field success, the overally jtstang rating for SMU in the last twenty years is 0.5 stars.

That's quite generous of you.

[Stallion]

All players will get 2 ratings eventually-should be pretty soon. There "usually in general" is substantial differences in the offers that go out to 5.4 guys than to guys in the 5.2, 5.1 and 5.0 who are generally classified as the real sleepers and rarely get substantial offers. The following is the description given by Rivals of the meaning of their ratings:

Rivals.com Prospect Database
About Football Ratings

Rivals.com has assembled the top team of recruiting analysts in the nation with both national and regional experts based all throughout the country. With those strengths, players at a number of different positions will be ranked once a month from June until February.


The rankings are compiled after countless hours of film evaluation, personal observations and input from professional, college and high school coaches.


In the finished product, players are ranked a number of different ways but the most important ways are numerically by position, qualitatively by stars and a new ranking system that grades players on the expected impact they will make in college.


Players are ranked numerically on a national level at their positions. The numerical ranking at each position varies depending on the depth of the talent at the position.


Players are also ranked on their quality with a star ranking. A five-star prospect is considered to be one of the nation's top 25-30 players, four star is a top 250-300 or so player, three-stars is a top 750 level player, two stars means the player is a mid-major prospect and one star means the player is not ranked.


The ranking system ranks prospects on a numerical scale from 6.1-4.9.



6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about


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[George S. Patton]

The number we don't want to see on our player commitment ratings is 4.9.

[Stallion]

actually I'd rather see a 4.9 than a 5.0 because a 4.9 means that nobody knew enough about him to give him a ranking. 5.0 means they do have enough information but rank him very low. Texas is a big state. One of the few 4.9s we have had over the years was Emanuel Sanders. It took about 5 minutes of watching the Texas High School All-Star Game to be convinced he was one of our best recruits-they simply missed him-it happens. As I've told some that little area of Texas- South of Austin, West of Houston and South of San Antonio where Sanders(Bellville), Whittington(Cuero) and Wayne Frazier(Refugio) are from is one area that doesn't get a lot of attention because there are no major media markets outside those areas. Great sleeper country. You won't find 4.9s from the Metroplex regions.

Another guy from that fertile, overlooked area is this kid who reportedly might be Commitment No. 13 on Scout-Aaron or Aron Franklin from Goliad. He looks like a great athlete to me. See link for a ton of information on this kids obvious athletic prowess in 3 sports. There's a good chance the recruiting services missed on this kid.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=357&f=1264&t=2682096

[jtstang]

If stars have any correlation to on-field success, the overally jtstang rating for SMU in the last twenty years is 0.5 stars.

That's quite generous of you.

It was going to be 0.0, but then I remembered that one glorious winning season we posted at 6-5 so I decided it would be 1.0. Then I remembered that was not good enough to get to a bowl game, and that we lost to a winless TCU team to blow that chance, so I backed off to 0.5.

There, I've pulled back the curtain on the jtstang rating system, so everything should be crystal clear now.

[mrydel]

0.5 star. Kind of an Alec Baldwin, huh.

[CalallenStang]

actually I'd rather see a 4.9 than a 5.0 because a 4.9 means that nobody knew enough about him to give him a ranking. 5.0 means they do have enough information but rank him very low. Texas is a big state. One of the few 4.9s we have had over the years was Emanuel Sanders. It took about 5 minutes of watching the Texas High School All-Star Game to be convinced he was one of our best recruits-they simply missed him-it happens. As I've told some that little area of Texas- South of Austin, West of Houston and South of San Antonio where Sanders(Bellville), Whittington(Cuero) and Wayne Frazier(Refugio) are from is one area that doesn't get a lot of attention because there are no major media markets outside those areas. Great sleeper country. You won't find 4.9s from the Metroplex regions.

Another guy from that fertile, overlooked area is this kid who reportedly might be Commitment No. 13 on Scout-Aaron or Aron Franklin from Goliad. He looks like a great athlete to me. See link for a ton of information on this kids obvious athletic prowess in 3 sports. There's a good chance the recruiting services missed on this kid.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=357&f=1264&t=2682096

Refugio is in the Corpus Christi media market, a media market that has a lot of so-called "sleepers." A few years ago, Corpus Christi Flour Bluff had two guys - one 6'2" and one 6'3" - that ran 40s in the 4.4 - 4.5 range. They ended up going to Texas State. I don't know if they still play there, because the last I had heard, they had gotten mixed up with the wrong crowd. Still, these guys were legitimate D-1 players that got overlooked.

[mrydel]

Flour Bluff? Are they the Sifters?

[CalallenStang]

Flour Bluff? Are they the Sifters?

Sadly, no. Hornets.

They have one of the best NJROTC units in the nation...they've won something like 11 out of the last 12 Navy national championships.

That's about the only good thing about that school (oh, and they are good in athletics...unfortunately)