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This is Why I Distinguish Between Verified and Unverfied

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:03 pm
by Stallion
looks like about 11 of our recruits shrunk as well-some are listed by SMU even below Rivals verified heights(Collins, Gamble and Johnson)

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content ... iting.html

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:22 pm
by SMU21TCU10
yeah i saw the 5 foot 8 on Gamble.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:25 pm
by SMU21TCU10
Henderson shrunk 2 inches also

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:27 pm
by expony18
good thing JJ doesn't rely on Rivals and Scout

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:38 pm
by SMU21TCU10
I wonder if most coaches completely ignore the online rankings or if there is some who use those rankings a lot when evaluating.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:05 pm
by ponyte
I would be shocked if the coaches relied on any scouting board. Most have had a lot of film reviewed and person meetings by the bunches.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:32 pm
by mrydel
I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:01 pm
by SMU21TCU10
mrydel wrote:I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.


No sarcasm in his voice at all?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:56 pm
by mrydel
SMU21TCU10 wrote:
mrydel wrote:I just heard a bit of Petrino's PC. He was describing one kid and said he was 6'4" 230 lbs. Then he stated that the kid actually weighed a little less when they had him on campus and thought he actually weighed 229. He seemed very serious.


No sarcasm in his voice at all?


Nope. Actually I think he was thinking of someone else and looked at his notes while he was talking and read the 229. If anything he sounded a little confused.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:19 pm
by Horseshoe
Stallion wrote:looks like about 11 of our recruits shrunk as well-some are listed by SMU even below Rivals verified heights(Collins, Gamble and Johnson)
Wait - you mean rivals exaggerates? They're not accurate 100 percent of the time? Staggering!

SMU21TCU10 wrote:I wonder if most coaches completely ignore the online rankings or if there is some who use those rankings a lot when evaluating.
You can't be serious. Say you're a head coach - you walk into an assistant coach's office and he says you should recruit some kid .... based on what a computer geek who has never seen the kid - and is not an expert evaluator of talent - says. Wouldn't you fire that assistant immediately? I don't know if I would, but I'd think about it. Coaches get paid a damn good salary, and I'm pretty sure it's not so they can sit behind their desks and read the pearls of wisdom of some computer nerds who can't tell a facemask from a catcher's mask.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:29 pm
by Stallion
Rivals and Scout verify the kids that go to their camp-its the High School Coaches and players who exagerrate. Just don't trust an unverfied height or weight because they are wrong 2/3rds of the time. Don't blame that on Rivals.

All these Coaches that say they don't pay attention to Rivals actually subscribe to their services. I agree they could care less about their rankings but they do provide valuable information about what the kid is thinking-majors, academic interests, who is involved in the decision-Mother, Father, Girlfriend, what their looking for in a school etc. And sometimes they may provide some information that might spark some interest. I guarantee you the Monday that a Player dominates one of their camps and its reported then the kid may have 5-6 schools check them out in the next week. It happened to the Peace, the Trice kid and many others. I'm sure they consult the videos too until they get the game film(which is preferrable because it has positive and negative plays.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:30 pm
by smupony94
SMU21TCU10 wrote:Henderson shrunk 2 inches also


I shrink whenever I take a cold shower