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Postby SoCal_Pony » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:14 am

Let me began by saying I am very pleased with our recruiting class.

But to add a little perspective to this years' class in regards to our number of Rivals 3-stars.

I have a good friend who is a Colorado State alum.

Rivals has Colorado State ranked #61 overall to SMU's 71.

Colorado State has (1) 4-star and (10) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.55.

SMU has (0) 4-stars and (15) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.50.

Take a closer look at Colorado State's top recruits.

The 4-star has 2 other BCS offers, Arizona State and Northwestern. The (10) 3-stars have 2 other BCS offers IN TOTAL. One has a Purdue offer, another has a Louisville offer.

Half of Colorado State's 3-star commitments have no other offers.

Further proof that Rivals is probably inflating their numbers.

Oh, this friend thinks there is no way his school moves to either the Pac-10 or Big XII, they are simply too small-time.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby mustangbill67 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:34 am

I checked out the other Conf USA schools and it looks like we are trailing only Houston and S. Miss at preset.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby SMU2007 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:44 am

SoCal_Pony wrote:Rivals has Colorado State ranked #61 overall to SMU's 71.

Colorado State has (1) 4-star and (10) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.55.

SMU has (0) 4-stars and (15) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.50.

Take a closer look at Colorado State's top recruits.

The 4-star has 2 other BCS offers, Arizona State and Northwestern. The (10) 3-stars have 2 other BCS offers IN TOTAL. One has a Purdue offer, another has a Louisville offer.


for comparison, our 15 three star recruits have a total of 15 bcs offers. (although, fields is responsible for 6 of them)
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby Alaric » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:48 am

SMU2007 wrote:
SoCal_Pony wrote:Rivals has Colorado State ranked #61 overall to SMU's 71.

Colorado State has (1) 4-star and (10) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.55.

SMU has (0) 4-stars and (15) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.50.

Take a closer look at Colorado State's top recruits.

The 4-star has 2 other BCS offers, Arizona State and Northwestern. The (10) 3-stars have 2 other BCS offers IN TOTAL. One has a Purdue offer, another has a Louisville offer.


for comparison, our 15 three star recruits have a total of 15 bcs offers. (although, fields is responsible for 6 of them)


Looking beyond our 3 stars, I found 12 BCS offers exclusive of Fields' offers and didn't check every one of them (Parks has several but he's a 2 star)
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby ponyscott » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:57 am

SMU2007 wrote:
SoCal_Pony wrote:Rivals has Colorado State ranked #61 overall to SMU's 71.

Colorado State has (1) 4-star and (10) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.55.

SMU has (0) 4-stars and (15) 3-stars with an average star rating of 2.50.

Take a closer look at Colorado State's top recruits.

The 4-star has 2 other BCS offers, Arizona State and Northwestern. The (10) 3-stars have 2 other BCS offers IN TOTAL. One has a Purdue offer, another has a Louisville offer.


for comparison, our 15 three star recruits have a total of 15 bcs offers. (although, fields is responsible for 6 of them)


edit...sorry just found the thread on this...
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby PonyTime » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:07 am

I trust JJ's evaluation better than Rivals.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby Stallion » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:21 am

in Rivals' crazy scoring system, Marshall has actually moved ahead of SMU in Total Points. You wonder why their scoring system can't be more transparent and logical
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby The PonyGrad » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:24 am

SMU is still #3 n average stars.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby SoCal_Pony » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:55 pm

The bar has now been set.

We are officially the UT of the non-BCS world.

Going forward, we should be every bit as pleased with being "#3 in average stars in C-USA" or "trailing only Houston and S. Miss" as Texas would be pleased being "#3 in average stars in the Big XII" or "trailing only A&M and OU".

In other words, in short order, this will become unacceptable.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby RGV Pony » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:58 pm

well with Southern Miss, how many of those will stay in school?
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby SoCal_Pony » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:29 pm

If you truly believe in Top 25, given our location, given our financial backing, given our facilities, given our school reputation...how many stay or leave So Miss should not be a consideration.

We are talking Hattiesburg, Mississippi versus Dallas, Texas.

fyi - i found this on the internet - "University Of Southern Mississippi was established in 1910 and is based in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. It has endowment assets worth $80.8 million"...can it really be that low???
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby The PonyGrad » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:02 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:The bar has now been set.

We are officially the UT of the non-BCS world.

Going forward, we should be every bit as pleased with being "#3 in average stars in C-USA" or "trailing only Houston and S. Miss" as Texas would be pleased being "#3 in average stars in the Big XII" or "trailing only A&M and OU".

In other words, in short order, this will become unacceptable.

For a team coming off a 1-11 season going into the recruting year, this is more than acceptable. For a team coming off 8-5 and hopefully going into another winning year, not so much. So next year we expect more. I agree.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby az1 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:53 pm

PonyTime wrote:I trust JJ's evaluation better than Rivals.


Well both Rivals and JJ are saying that this class is the best class in a long time. So your point is moot.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby Pony_Fan » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:38 pm

that's a given, it should only get better from here!

How soon y'all forget we won 2 games in 2 years before this year.
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Re: Rivals 3-Stars

Postby Peruna 2K5 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:39 pm

You can't totally judge a player by his rating on rivals (or scout for that matter). Its a good basis on their skills, but you can't always totally rely on them. They miss sometimes by overshooting (doesn't look like Mitch Mustain was worthy of a 5 star rating) or they undershoot (Chris Johnson, now RB with Tennessee, was only 2 stars).
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