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would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than twice.

Junior wrote:would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than twice.

I counted three

smusic 00 wrote:

Junior wrote:would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than twice.

I counted three

well, obviously you spent more time looking through this than i did

plus, i'm not too good at counting

smusic 00 wrote:

Junior wrote:would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than twice.

I counted three

There are two or three more on that list that we've offered that are considering us

The guy who wrote that list used to be my intern.
Looks like he's all growed up.

TCU appears to be having their best recruiting year ever. No problem making Rivals 2011 Top 25 for them this year.

westexSMU wrote:TCU appears to be having their best recruiting year ever. No problem making Rivals 2011 Top 25 for them this year.

Beat them and take them off their high horse.

smusic 00 wrote:

Junior wrote:would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than twice.

I counted three

It would be nice to show up as competition for those players more than 3 times.

The conventional wisdom on this board was give JJ 4 years and we will be able to compete against TCU. Not sure I buy into that.

The best analogy I can think of is American car manufactures competing against the Japanese in the 80's and 90's.

Yes, the quality of an American car improved during that period, but the Japanese quality increased even more.

SoCal_Pony wrote:The conventional wisdom on this board was give JJ 4 years and we will be able to compete against TCU. Not sure I buy into that.

The best analogy I can think of is American car manufactures competing against the Japanese in the 80's and 90's.

Yes, the quality of an American car improved during that period, but the Japanese quality increased even more.

We're improving considerably faster than TCU. Of course, our baseline is much lower so improvements from total suckage are easy.

Depends on what you mean by "compete." TCU is a top ten team. If anyone said when JJ was hired we'd be at that level four years into his tenure, they'd have been laughed off this board.

The goal is Top 25. We're making pretty good strides to get there.

What he's saying is that the long term talent disparity between SMU and TCU is actually growing-I agree with that. SMU is looking for sleepers-TCU is recruiting lately in the upper half of the Big 12.

You have to crawl before you can walk and walk before you can run. TCU has a hell of a head start on us and it will still be awhile before we close the gap. Having said that, we are ahead of where we have been for a long time and that is good. TCU will continue to be a team we compare ourselves against for awhile to come as they are still doing much better than us, but I know for a fact that they are looking over their shoulder with a bit of concern at our progress.

Stallion wrote:What he's saying is that the long term talent disparity between SMU and TCU is actually growing-I agree with that. SMU is looking for sleepers-TCU is recruiting lately in the upper half of the Big 12.

We're not looking for "sleepers," are we? We've been offering top talent by your own admission. The fact that TCU appears to be on the road to a better class doesn't mean we're not taking it up a notch, recruiting wise.

Don't take this to mean that I don't want what TCU has. But PK is right and TCU's a team a lot of schools would love to be right now. Good for them. But for now I'll take the improvement.